| OntarioCanuck - 5/9/2021 19:33
Good thing you noted it was a 'belief' that the vaccines are unproven.
They have been proven to give good protection, 90-95% even
Not sure how being vaccinated is going to prolong the virus as those who are protected stop the spread and the chances of the virus replicating and mutating to create new versions
Not being allowed on a plane if you are not vaccinated and protected does not force you to do anything.
It is your choice.
If you want to fly unprotected/vaccinated then find a plane full of other people who are also unprotected and you will not risk spreading it to people whop are trying to stop the virus
You have free choice.
I do not think there is anywhere that forces you to vaccinate but if you choose to be unprotected then many will not want to be near you in crowded places like planes, stadiums, or cruise ships. Even many countries will choose to refuse you entry with out protection. That is their choice to protect themselves and their customers. Your choice to remain unprotected and not join large public groups where distancing is difficult to impossible.
Not joining any group as there is choice now.
It is the choice of airlines. cruise ships, large public gatherings and countries to not allow unvaccinated people in and those people have the choice not to get a vaccine but do not have the right to force themselves on others who want to get rid of Covid.
It is not discrimination to protect the health of everyone just as it is not discrimination to not allow untrained people to drive on the roads or those who risk others by driving inebriated
If you look back I said that it is your belief that taking the vaccine is the right thing to do. I did not say it was a belief that the vaccine was unproven. It is the safety of the vaccine that is unproven. Being effective is not the same as being safe. For example, burning covid infected people at the stake would prevent disease transmission but it certainly isn’t a safe form of treatment.
You know that I told you exactly how being vaccinated will still allow you to spread the virus as well as allow new mutations to develop. It was the rate of new mutations that would be slowed due to reduced viral replication. The same reduced viral replication that would occur with antiviral drugs that I’d prefer as a method of treatment. You don’t deserve any more credit for stopping the virus than I do.
If a vaccinated person like yourself is scared to be around an unvaccinated person that speaks volumes about how you feel about the vaccine.
So, are you saying that you think others should not have the freedoms you enjoy, one could even call it being punished, for simply not believing the same thing as you do? History is full of religions like that but you always said you didn’t simply follow beliefs.
You have no proof that your belief the vaccine is the best method is correct, you only have your belief. You should not be afraid of being proven wrong. Just accept that it is only a belief and that you don’t actually have proof that your method is better. Then support what I proposed and let science find the best way forward. Keep religion and politics out of it. You are safe, you are vaccinated. Will you support the proposal I asked of you last time?
Edited by havin’funfarming 5/9/2021 23:19
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