I guess I should have worded OP different. Should have been why isn't there emphasis put on topsoil loss when ROI is discussed? I am all for anyone doing what they what, but what will it look like 50 years down the road. Having livestock out there part of the time is money well spent in my opinion, even though I don't have any. It seems to mimic what it was like 100-200 years ago when OM wasn't being burned off  as it is today. Just hoping for a decent discussion.