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Ox76
Posted 2/24/2021 08:48 (#8854837 - in reply to #8852922)
Subject: RE: God's plans?


west central MO
dko_scOH - 2/23/2021 12:04

Okay, now we're getting somewhere.

You are saying that we humans have free will and are, therefore, free to screw up so badly that it warrants eternal punishment. The future is not only unknown, but is unknowable, because we can at any time change the future through our actions.

I think most people will agree with this. We certainly feel like we are free do good or bad, at our choosing. But the flip side to this is that no one -- not even a God -- can say what the future holds. Whammo, back into conflict with an all-knowing being at the helm.

As I say above, this is an ancient theological dilemma. There can only be a Plan if the future is pre-ordained. But if we are mere actors reading our lines, punishment for our bad deeds seems misplaced.



DKO - you need to try to open your mind a little more. We do indeed have free will here on earth. God knows EVERYTHING, including the future and what is in store for us. He already knows if you're going to burn or live life eternal in heaven. What he DOESN'T do is interfere and MAKE us do anything.

Think of it this way: You programmed a computer game that plays itself. You know which character in this game will ultimately win. You sit back and watch it unfold, already knowing what's going to happen. You still love the game and its characters because you created them, after all!

Think of the misery God must go through knowing all that he knows, watching those he loves condemn their immortal souls.
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