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western iowa,by Denison | we went about 2 years ago and Temple Grandin was one of the speakers-got to meet her personally and she was spitting mad at me when I told her the tub -and alley way was my bottleneck and had used her design-we came up with a solution and she autographed my book-kinda a once in million chance for both of us,I think Mr. Vetter is verdantly in her mind now.
Try to approach it with a open mind-you might pick something up-or you might know more then they know -which is worth to know-you know!
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