My brother really enjoyed sailing. His last boat was a 24 footer with a small cabin. The last time I was out with him he took his oldest son, my son, and me out on the Bay Springs lake on the Tenn-Tom waterway. There was a pretty brisk wind that day. My brother was at the tiller and his son and I were leaning out as far as we could as a counter balance. The boat was heeled over pretty good. I don't remember the exact degrees, but my son, who was about 10 at the time, was sitting in the cabin totally convinced that we were going to sink. It was fun.