That's a pretty bold statement saying they would all fail (my words summarizing your statement).

Would you care to name individuals you assess as definite failures if the RR gene was removed? I assume that's what you mean by "conventional"? How do you come to the conclusion they would be failures? Did they fail or not exist before the RR products were available 10 yrs ago?

Also, now that my name appears here, Seedsguy should be stopping by with his anonymous 2 cents.