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J Green

Posted 6/20/2018 14:17 (#6823815 - in reply to #6823681)
Subject: RE: It has to be asked, what is going to happen in the end with the tariffs?

North Central IL

Cave or not it really doesn't make a difference. Trump is doing what he said he was going to do. Long before he ran for election he stated how he didn't like the trade deals. He sees all trade as a zero sum game, one winner and one loser. So even if a deal is done with China in the short run, long term we are just going to lurch from one trade dispute to the next.

Trade is NOT a zero sum game. Trade make us stronger and the world a safer place.....Don't think Japan or Germany are going to attack us. The USSR fell apart when they opened up and allowed people to travel and started to trade with the west. We are party to a number of trade agreements that set standards for products specification and rules between the parties this drive efficiencies and helps adjudicate disputes. For example TPP had mechanisms that all counties had agreed to that would have protected Intellectual property rights. The very complaint we have with China. Now we are on our own. We are basically giving all of Asia to China.

So in closing a question: Why would Trump be worried about farmers, it's not like the vast majority of farmers are going to vote the "R's" out of office.

It has to be asked, what is going to happen in the end with the tariffs? - Jake081 : 6/20/2018 12:54
- RE: It has to be asked, what is going to happen in the end with the tariffs? - McHusker : 6/20/2018 13:15
  - RE: It has to be asked, what is going to happen in the end with the tariffs? - CentralNEFarmer : 6/20/2018 15:07
    - RE: It has to be asked, what is going to happen in the end with the tariffs? - buckeye : 6/20/2018 18:24
      - RE: It has to be asked, what is going to happen in the end with the tariffs? - pbutler : 6/21/2018 08:02
        
        RE: It has to be asked, what is going to happen in the end with the tariffs? - buckeye : 6/21/2018 09:37
  - RE: It has to be asked, what is going to happen in the end with the tariffs? - Turbodog : 6/21/2018 18:25
- RE: It has to be asked, what is going to happen in the end with the tariffs? - 1448 : 6/20/2018 13:18
  - RE: It has to be asked, what is going to happen in the end with the tariffs? - centralillinois : 6/20/2018 13:25
    - RE: It has to be asked, what is going to happen in the end with the tariffs? - emtbd1979 : 6/20/2018 14:45
      - RE: It has to be asked, what is going to happen in the end with the tariffs? - WItitan2 : 6/20/2018 16:17
    - RE: It has to be asked, what is going to happen in the end with the tariffs? - Hilltop Husker : 6/20/2018 14:49
      - RE: It has to be asked, what is going to happen in the end with the tariffs? - pbutler : 6/21/2018 08:04
    - RE: It has to be asked, what is going to happen in the end with the tariffs? - Bigalbert2332 : 6/20/2018 16:05
      - RE: It has to be asked, what is going to happen in the end with the tariffs? - Gearclash : 6/20/2018 16:34
- RE: It has to be asked, what is going to happen in the end with the tariffs? - cainfarmer : 6/20/2018 13:24
- RE: It has to be asked, what is going to happen in the end with the tariffs? - iadirt : 6/20/2018 13:27
  - RE: Unpredictable is just another word for .... - farmer4321 : 6/20/2018 14:06
    - RE: Unpredictable is just another word for .... - STOMN17 : 6/20/2018 15:31
      - RE: Unpredictable is just another word for .... - Since1889 : 6/20/2018 15:51
    - RE: You don't get what you deserve... you get what you negotiate for - Baby Robin : 6/20/2018 17:09
      - RE: You don't get what you deserve... you get what you negotiate for - Mbmaring : 6/20/2018 19:55
  - RE: It has to be asked, what is going to happen in the end with the tariffs? - jdm : 6/20/2018 16:55
    - RE: It has to be asked, what is going to happen in the end with the tariffs? - 1660 : 6/21/2018 12:35
  - RE: It has to be asked, what is going to happen in the end with the tariffs? - buckeye : 6/20/2018 18:30
    - RE: It has to be asked, what is going to happen in the end with the tariffs? - johnnycash : 6/20/2018 22:28
      - RE: It has to be asked, what is going to happen in the end with the tariffs? - buckeye : 6/21/2018 05:34
- RE: It has to be asked, what is going to happen in the end with the tariffs? - McFarmer : 6/20/2018 13:36
- RE: It has to be asked, what is going to happen in the end with the tariffs? - McHusker : 6/20/2018 13:41
  - RE: It has to be asked, what is going to happen in the end with the tariffs? - McFarmer : 6/20/2018 14:05
- RE: It has to be asked, what is going to happen in the end with the tariffs? - beebe44 : 6/20/2018 14:11
- RE: It has to be asked, what is going to happen in the end with the tariffs? - J Green : 6/20/2018 14:17
  - RE: It has to be asked, what is going to happen in the end with the tariffs? - buckeye : 6/20/2018 18:31
- RE: Optimistic about what exactly? - farmer4321 : 6/20/2018 14:28
  - RE: Optimistic about what exactly? - Itchy : 6/20/2018 14:34
    - RE: Optimistic about what exactly? - Mbmaring : 6/20/2018 14:41
    - RE: soybean meal spoils, still have to sell the meal to somebody. - farmer4321 : 6/20/2018 14:44
    - RE: Optimistic about what exactly? - McHusker : 6/20/2018 15:38
  - So now all my "environmentalist" european friends are going to promote the deforestation of South Am - Baby Robin : 6/20/2018 17:47
    - RE: So now all my "environmentalist" european friends are going to promote the deforestation of Sout - McHusker : 6/20/2018 18:00
      - RE: So now all my "environmentalist" european friends are going to promote the deforestation of Sout - Baby Robin : 6/20/2018 18:31
- RE: It has to be asked, what is going to happen in the end with the tariffs? - Mbmaring : 6/20/2018 14:37
  - RE: Bull in the "China" shop...... - farmer4321 : 6/20/2018 14:47
    - RE: Bull in the "China" shop...... - Mbmaring : 6/20/2018 14:54
    - RE: Bull in the "China" shop...... - cvforsberg : 6/20/2018 14:54
    - RE: Bull in the "China" shop...... - yathink : 6/20/2018 15:00
      - RE: Bull in the "China" shop...... - kggonzo : 6/20/2018 20:45
    - RE: Bull in the "China" shop...... maybe the Chinese should quit screwing around with the bull - Baby Robin : 6/20/2018 17:25
  - RE: It has to be asked, what is going to happen in the end with the tariffs? - mcfarm : 6/20/2018 15:10
    - RE: It has to be asked, what is going to happen in the end with the tariffs? - Mbmaring : 6/20/2018 15:30
      - RE: It has to be asked, what is going to happen in the end with the tariffs? - cvforsberg : 6/20/2018 16:04
      - RE: It has to be asked, what is going to happen in the end with the tariffs? - mcfarm : 6/20/2018 17:48
- RE: It has to be asked, what is going to happen in the end with the tariffs? - Bonpas : 6/20/2018 14:51
- RE: It has to be asked, what is going to happen in the end with the tariffs? - Cornstalk1 : 6/20/2018 15:02
- RE: It has to be asked, what is going to happen in the end with the tariffs? - buckeye : 6/20/2018 18:21
  - RE: It has to be asked, what is going to happen in the end with the tariffs? - Grhog : 6/20/2018 18:47
    - RE: Got to think positive..... - farmer4321 : 6/20/2018 18:58
  - RE: It has to be asked, what is going to happen in the end with the tariffs? - neukm : 6/21/2018 08:32

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