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garvo
Posted 1/11/2017 13:16 (#5760381 - in reply to #5759859)
Subject: RE: Feb Cattle


western iowa,by Denison
Jim - 1/11/2017 08:11

garvo - 1/10/2017 23:33 why don't you call it out Jim-you have been hinting at your disgust towards me long enough-Ya I dont fit your marketing plan for 50 head of fat cattle-I market the day I buy the calves or I don't buy-its a lot better plan then blindly paying to much and trying to hope for a higher market-your post's stink to a guy trying to make it-you have no idea-and your being a prick

Gary, I don't know what caused this response but my comments were not aimed at you nor anyone else, just the effect of the process on the cow/calf business in this country.

I appreciate your input on the stock talk board very much. I understand the predicament the independent feeder is in, and the potential for financial disaster in the feeding business. It is logical and understandable that the independent feeder, with a lot of dollars invested, buy at the lowest prices he can find an acceptable input and protect himself by hedging in any way possible.

Because of the concentration in the beef packing industry there is little competition for fat cattle.  The cow/calf business on the other hand is the exact opposite of the packers: many smaller (avg US cow/calf herd is still around 50 cows), diverse, independent producers.

The USA beef breed cow herd numbers have been in decline for over 50 years, interrupted only by the brief period of higher prices in 2014 and 2015.  It is fairly well accepted that the main reason for this decline is calf prices consistently below the cost of production.

As I have said many times, the correction in the beef business must come from higher fat prices, not from lower calf prices. 

I have the highest respect for you and your operation.  My comments are intended to support the cow/calf producer, not to criticize the independent feeder.

You are an important resource for NAT and very generous with your knowledge and experience.  In no way are my comments above directed at you.  I apologize if they in any way appear to be and sorry you took them as such.

Jim

sorry for the abrupt remarks Jim-if more cattle feeders would maybe pay attention to where that board is I would think we wouldn't have loss so many cattle feeders in the last 3 years-What striked me as your first post my program and marketing is doing just what you describe Lockin in a profit on the board the day I buy them-I do not wish feeder cattle lower-I personally buy lots of 2-3-4th cut calves that the big players leave alone-I guess a guy could stay out -again sorry-put yourself in the shoes of a cattle feeder -just how do we function when we have millions of dollars at risk without hedging
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