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upping n rate on wheat without major lodging problens
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BigNorsk
Posted 12/9/2011 10:06 (#2093422 - in reply to #2093271)
Subject: Re: upping n rate on wheat without major lodging problens



Rolla, ND
What kind of wheat is it and what was your protein? If your protein was significantly lower than normal then maybe the N cost you yield. There is no leftover after beans, rather it is you don't have tons of stover that eat N to decompose.

There have been a lot of theories as far as linking yield to amount of N needed. Before going too overboard with trying to get more wheat with more N, I'd say you'd be better spending some money to follow your crop. Pull some soil tests (not the six inch type but go at least to two feet) during the season and do some tissue tests.

If pushing wheat, as you call it, one needs to really pay attention to his fields too. Here we really do have a lot of fields that zone out pretty well. You can put a lot of N on a hilltop and not lodge, get a little carried away at the base of the hill and it goes flat. Old farmyards are not the place to add N. Those sorts of things. If you don't pay attention, you often lose on one area what you might be gaining on the other plus have a tougher time harvesting.

Does your spreader do any accidental or intentional overlaps? Is so, what happens in those spots?

Being in the east, you also have the option of things like Cerone to help the crop stand. Don't apply during a drought.

First thing you need to grow wheat is really good seed. Is your seed high germination, high vigor and uniform? The worst weeds in a wheat field are unproductive wheat plants. To grow over 100 you want to see all the plants emerge on the same day just a few days after planting. If the stand comes up a plant here and a plant there over days, you can kiss the idea of high yields goodbye. I'm guessing a lot of your neighbors basically slop their wheat into the ground one way or another and it shows it. For some reason guys who have a heart attack if their corn isn't perfectly even think nothing of treating wheat like garbage and just throw it out there. Maybe it's because when the weather hits just right it seems to turn out well.
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