There has to be weak longs for that to happen. Someone has to sell for them to buy. Problem is when the price is driven down, the strong hands only buy more, compounding the problem for the shorts. If they jury rig the market down and only create demand without shaking out many weak longs they shoot themselves in the foot. Low prices create greater demand ffom China. Long term, that is a good thing for the longs and a bad thing for end users and shorts. They have to wait till enough leveraged spec money gets in the market before there are any weak longs to shake out. Now the question is, have they already shaken all the loose fruit from the tree, or is there more to be had? They will not get any of mine.

John