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tedbear
Posted 6/13/2010 16:48 (#1235752 - in reply to #1234552)
Subject: RE: JD Rate Controller in Rogator 854 answers


Near Intersection of I-35 & I-90 Southern Mn.
Smoothlander - 6/12/2010 16:44

Hope this makes sense.

Note: Pin's 10, 14 and 15 in the Raven harness are not used

JD 37 Pin - Function - Raven 16 Pin - Function
1 - Valve ground - 1 - Ground
2
3
4 - Section 1 - 6 - Boom 1
5 - Section 2 - 2 - Boom 2
6 - Section 3 - 5 - Boom 3
7 - Section 4 - 7 - Boom 4
8 - Section 5 - 8 - Boom 5
9 - Section 6 - 9 - Boom 6
10
11
12
13
14
15 - Control Valve 1 (-) - 4 - Decrease
16 - Control Valve 1 (-) - 3 - Increase
17
18
19
20
21 - Flowmeter Shield - 11 - Flow Ground
22
23
24
25 - Flowmeter #1 5vdc - 12 - Flow 5v
26
27
28 - Flowmeter #1 Signal - 13 - Flow Signal
29
30
31
32
33
34
35
36 - Valve Power - 16 - Valve Power
37


Yes, I would agree with your pinout. This is the same pinout as Raven uses with their 4400 family of controllers. The exception is Pin 18 which is a Master on the Deere setup if you need it.

We have run into some of the same questions when using an Ag Leader Direct Command system on a Rogator. With an Ag Leader Direct command system we use the original boom switches and reroute them to become inputs to the AIM. Our cable is somewhat different than Ag Leader's as we have the AIM and LPCM module both in the cab and use the original wiring out to the boom. We also include a jumper that allows the cables to be reconnected to return the rig to original operation. We call this cable the "Ben Rahe" jumper after the person who first suggested the idea.

One of my CoWorkers developed a couple of other adapter cables so that RoGators can be used with EZ-Boom. There is a different cable for the 12XX vs the smaller models but the concept is the same in that the boom switches are intercepted and effecively disconnected as the Boom Switches on the EZ-Boom must be used. The harness for the small Rogators has a loose connector to return the boom switches to their original function. In the case of the 12xx, it is easy to remove the harness as no wires are cut.

We feel that this ability to easily "return to original" is a must. It is very reassuring to be able to return to the original setup for a variety of reasons. Sometimes the Fancy Display is being used elsewhere, a certain operator doesn't want to use it and wants the rig the "old way" or the rig gets traded and needs to work for the next owner.

Many Rogators use a PWM type control. Does the Deere system ability to work with the PWM valves? The Rogators that use the PWM control would use a Raven 661 which has a high current driver built into the console as the regular PWM driver in a 440/450/460 cannnot handle the current required. EZ-Boom and Direct Command can handle the load.

Edited by tedbear 6/13/2010 17:08
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