Joelt - 2/22/2016 12:07 Well, I'm referring to the ubiquitous saucer shaped red manifolds that we used for years and years before trying impellicones. I only say cheap-o in relation to the cost of the impellicone. I have taken mine apart only to find the cone in pieces and chunks plugging up the outlets so if it works just as well without it I might consider pulling it out.