Been years since heard that name John Massey.  Quick search says he is around Aurora Mo.  Sure would appreciate if he would be part of our Stock Talk.  I could have never told who coined the statement. " If you never pull a calf you are leaving pounds on the table."  I would say it was John, as I was around the tested bull sales.  When you are in Germany, eat a brat with sauerkraut for me from a food cart vendor on the Rhine, had one almost 50 years ago think it was outside Frankfort Germany.