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West Central Iowa | Ever since I installed this Integra in combine for moisture on corn ive had a problem On the range of moisture on corn! Ex if I have 20, 24, 28 per corn in the same field! I can sample an cal on 24 corn and the range will only change from 23-25 per. I can cal for 24 corn and then to get to a corn that’s 20 and it won’t go below 23 unless I cal again for the dryer corn. I used a pf 3000 before and the moisture range would always change. It works great on soybeans showing ranges from 10-16. Just a problem on corn! Clean out auger is always working! Let me know if there are any other setting in the grain setup! Thanks |
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Central MN | I feel like mine is similar. Had a PFADVANTAGE before hand no issues. |
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Near Intersection of I-35 & I-90 Southern Mn. | A couple of things come to mind. Have you checked the temperature to determine if it is realistic? This should be checked prior to season but not changed within season. Also be careful when doing this and comparing the temperature reported on the display against what you feel is actual outside air temperature. Temperature is involved with the moisture sensor and the temp probe on the moisture sensor (small dot of metal) can get worn and fail.
Is the auger on the moisture sensor running properly? You say it is running but it should start/stop during normal operation. To allow me to observe mine (really haven't had any problem), I have wired in an LED inside the cab across the wires to the small auger motor. This allows me to observe how often the auger runs. In beans it should start/stop quite often. In good corn, it should run almost constantly but stop when the combine runs empty possibly while turning around on a headland.
I have used a PF3000, Insight and InCommand 1200 and they have all behaved in this same manner.
Edited by tedbear 10/7/2020 06:32
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West Central Iowa | When I calibrate the temp sensor, I’ll try to do it inside the shed, take the moisture sensor out and hold temp sensor close to the sensor! I usually test the proxy eye at the time by covering the eye with my finger! Just seems like the Integra only has a certain range set on corn! It’s been like this ever since it’s been installed! 7 years? The first year I called tech support about it without any help! I should Try put one our Versa in it and try that! Thanks Tedbear |
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South Central MN | When we had problems like that with our integra, the auger wasn't turning.
Not trying to be contradictory, but have you witnessed the auger actually spinning or were you just listening to the motor? Is there something blocking the intake to the sensor so you never have crop in there? |
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Near Intersection of I-35 & I-90 Southern Mn. | Today I harvested our last soybean field. They were 1.4s and had been hit with hail really early which I didn't think hurt anything. Apparently I was wrong as the yield was about 20 bu/ac less than the same variety that was not hit with hail. Due to nice weather but considerable winds the beans are over dry. Even starting early in the day, the highest moisture reading I ever saw was 11.8%. They went as low as 8.7% and seemed to stay there. Observing my indicator light I noticed that the auger motor in the moisture sensor was not turning.
No need for a moisture sensor when the elevator was reporting the beans at 9-10%. I did get done and when I got home and shut down, the system. It asked if I wanted to clean out the moisture sensor chamber. I indicated yes and since the engine was off, I could actually hear the auger motor turning and my indicator light agreed.
So it would seem my problem is with the proximity switch or something in that area. My relay must be OK since the clean out procedure activated it to clean out.
Edited by tedbear 10/8/2020 06:25
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West Central Iowa | Sorry! Seems like that usually happens when I try to help! |
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Near Intersection of I-35 & I-90 Southern Mn. | I should be able to figure it out with some daylight and a good nights sleep. The indicator light I had installed years ago was useful in thinking through the problem. I know that my motor, power to it and relay are good. The proximity sensor does not seem to be triggering the relay to run. This could be the sensor itself or other portions of the circuitry.
I noticed a 5 AMP fuse for it and will check that out. My plan is to physically remove the auger first so that when I feel around for the proximity switch I don't get hurt in case I'm able to trigger it to run. |
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Central NE | tedbear - 10/8/2020 06:24
I should be able to figure it out with some daylight and a good nights sleep. The indicator light I had installed years ago was useful in thinking through the problem. I know that my motor, power to it and relay are good. The proximity sensor does not seem to be triggering the relay to run. This could be the sensor itself or other portions of the circuitry.
I noticed a 5 AMP fuse for it and will check that out. My plan is to physically remove the auger first so that when I feel around for the proximity switch I don't get hurt in case I'm able to trigger it to run.
Same problem here, finishing up beans Sunday. Led light you instructed me to install only lit once during the previous day. Fuse was good, chamber was full. After switching to corn, I blew out the area where the moisture sensor sets. Got a lot of dust out from around the proximity switch lense. I took the 2 1/4" nuts off the cover and it was packed with wheat, bean dust. 5 years worth of crap. Powered on the Integra and with auger in place, I stuck 2 fingers up over the proximity switch eye and motor ran, did this several times. I am calling it fixed, by cleaning the dust out of the eye. Auger really can't get you tangled up when you manually trigger the proximity eye. |
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Central NE | I watched this video the before, so as I knew what I was going to be dealing with. I thought I was going to have to adjust the switch.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a9dvl7o3A80 |
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Near Intersection of I-35 & I-90 Southern Mn. | I followed your lead and removed the cover on the moisture sensor assembly. Like yours it had plenty of debris on the outside which actually shouldn't have affected the behavior. I blew it out and proceeded to rub my finger over the proximity sensor with no action on the motor. I then realized I needed to have the display on so I crawled up in the cab and chose a test field. When I returned to the proximity sensor I was able to get the motor to start reliably when I touched it with my finger. I did not remove the auger as there wasn't much danger of sticking my finger in it.
I returned to finish a small patch of soybeans that I had passed when I harvested the field. My indicator light indicated the motor was working but only ran for short spurts which is likely due to the reduced yield in the patch. So I really didn't find anything wrong but possibly rubbing the proximity sensor with my finger cleaned it up. I haven't done anything with it in years.
I'm don't know if the proximity sensor triggers on pressure or moisture. Maybe the 8-9% beans were just too dry to trigger it the day before. The patch was slightly wetter but still very dry. I will be going back to corn today and I will be watching my indicator. I suspect things will be fine in that regard.
Later:
Mine is working again as usual in corn. My indicator light shows that the auger motor is running almost constantly in good corn. It will "catch up" and shut off while leaving turning around on the headland. It has worked properly since I "cleaned off the sensor" or maybe it was the overly dry beans (Around 8%).
Edited by tedbear 10/18/2020 08:50
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NoDak | I believe the proximity switch triggers on "sight". Just having something in front of it should turn auger on. They are easy to adjust if needed, just need a small standard screwdriver |
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| Had proximity go bad this year. It wouldn’t turn so I took it out to check it would work. Turns out when I would tighten the mounting bolts it would quit. Loosen them up it would work. Put new switch in and worked fine. Never had that before in probably 15 years running Agleader stuff. |
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Intregra moisture problem in corn
