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white shadow

Posted 1/9/2019 10:05 (#7231881)
Subject: This is why I don't fear Brazil like.......

East Central South Dakota

some of the people on here......and yes, just my opinion, and I might be wrong-----time will reveal the truth. https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2019/01/08/ceara-brazil-... I have said on this forum many times, Brazil has the potential to blow up. Northern Brazil is on fire and look what country it shares a border with on the north----Venezuela. Brazil is surrounded and shares borders with instability. Do the prairie fires of instability spread or are they contained ? ? In the 80's South Africa was going to produce American farmers out of a job---look at South African production numbers today----South Africa shares a border with Zimbabwe, Zimbabwe was the bread basket of Africa before Mugabe destroyed the country and that Zimbabwe ideology spread into South Africa through a shared border. United Nations is now feeding Zimbabwe with South Africa right behind them.

The left is going to test the power of the newly elected right --in Bolsonaro. Bolsonaro is retired military and he might stomp this fire out brutally----brutality can sometimes fan the flames of civil war. If the political instability grows what better way to hurt the "guy in charge" then blow up export facilities to stop the revenue stream and create chaos-----that is what the left does well.

I thought a soybean sell in the range of 9.40-9.60 in the July contract would be a good sell. Now with drought and potential social instability----maybe not. I might have sold to early--I guess that is why they call it "futures" as the future can change very fast........ Tempted to try to buy back my sale, but that puts more risk into my marketing plan---not less. Sale was above COP, just live with it and realize opportunities for 2019 just opened up.

Edited by white shadow 1/9/2019 10:14

Skyfish

Posted 1/9/2019 10:26 (#7231924 - in reply to #7231881)
Subject: RE: This is why I don't fear Brazil like.......

Central IA

I always wonder the same, I still question China's plan to invest around the world. Buying from USA AG producers is boring, good price good product. Not many variables. Except 2012 and the $7 corn year.

I think China remember those 2 things. Now China is (trying) colonizing Africa, it will end up bloody in my opinion. South America, if Argentina and Brazil could get act half together watch out. But liberalism with corruption usually is the downfall of any meaningful advances.

Remember what made America great(no MAGA pun intended). A free people were allowed to reap the benefits of their own labor. Let that sink in. And remember no war on poverty and no bankruptcy. Most English immigrants were indentured servants being "bought" to pay off deft. It's amazing to me we had enough honest leaders in the 1770's they did what they did. A dream of being free and responsible for own success(or failure).

I got off topic but I agree with you White Shadow.

Getoffmylawn

Posted 1/9/2019 11:38 (#7232069 - in reply to #7231924)
Subject: RE: This is why I don't fear Brazil like.......

Texas, the really flat part

You're talking about the founding fathers who codified slavery into our founding document? The men who limited the vote to white land owning males? The men who began carried out genocide against the native people? Our founding is complicated and the goals of freedom are an ongoing fight. I'd say we're enjoying a more free existence now than our forefathers ever dreamed of.

Huh?

Posted 1/9/2019 11:53 (#7232098 - in reply to #7232069)
Subject: Another absolute load of crap

southcentral Minnesota

Getoffmylawn - 1/9/2019 11:38

You're talking about the founding fathers who codified slavery into our founding document? The men who limited the vote to white land owning males? The men who began carried out genocide against the native people? Our founding is complicated and the goals of freedom are an ongoing fight. I'd say we're enjoying a more free existence now than our forefathers ever dreamed of.

https://wallbuilders.com/founding-fathers-slavery/#

Getoffmylawn

Posted 1/9/2019 12:01 (#7232114 - in reply to #7232098)
Subject: RE: Another absolute load of crap

Texas, the really flat part

Go ahead and run with that nutter site if it makes you sleep better at night.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/wallbuilders/

ricefarmer14

Posted 1/9/2019 14:21 (#7232417 - in reply to #7232114)
Subject: RE: Another absolute load of crap

East Arkansas

Do you believe everything g you read on that site? How about CNN?

unlgrad

Posted 1/9/2019 12:07 (#7232127 - in reply to #7232098)
Subject: RE: Another absolute load of crap

Thurston County, NE

Thank you for the link. It is amazing how many falsehoods are repeated as facts. I knew that Washington was against slavery. Clearly most Americans do not know their history. Needless to say, Washington and the founding fathers were highly educated men.

tim ar

Posted 1/9/2019 18:05 (#7232872 - in reply to #7232127)
Subject: RE: Another absolute load of crap

Holly Grove Arkansas

Washington owned 123 slaves when he died.

Edited by tim ar 1/9/2019 18:06

tmrand

Posted 1/9/2019 18:11 (#7232897 - in reply to #7232872)
Subject: RE: Another absolute load of crap

Southeast Colorado

So what? He also was instrumental in developing a nation that has brought you unbelievable freedoms and riches while simultaneously making the world a better place. 200 years ago that was a normal accepted practice...........kind of like me drinking beer legally at 18 years old back in 1984. Now that would be illegal............should I be shunned forever and my name smeared?

Edited by tmrand 1/9/2019 18:12

tim ar

Posted 1/9/2019 18:32 (#7232976 - in reply to #7232897)
Subject: RE: Another absolute load of crap

Holly Grove Arkansas

I don’t disagree but he was obviously not anti-slavery as the poster to whom I was replying claimed.

Getoffmylawn

Posted 1/9/2019 20:59 (#7233490 - in reply to #7232127)
Subject: RE: Another absolute load of crap

Texas, the really flat part

They were elites.

tim ar

Posted 1/9/2019 17:29 (#7232759 - in reply to #7232098)
Subject: RE: Another absolute load of crap

Holly Grove Arkansas

3: Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other

Getoffmylawn

Posted 1/9/2019 22:27 (#7233731 - in reply to #7232098)
Subject: RE: Another absolute load of crap

Texas, the really flat part

Huh? - 1/9/2019 11:53

https://wallbuilders.com/founding-fathers-slavery/#

David Barton is a noted charlaron, con man and pseudo historian.

https://tfn.org/david-barton-watch/profile-of-david-barton/

Chief Illiniwek

Posted 1/9/2019 12:05 (#7232122 - in reply to #7232069)
Subject: RE: This is why I don't fear Brazil like.......

West central IL

Do you apply modern principles to everyone in history? Do you not find that pretty much 99% of historical figures were pretty brutal when doing so?

Getoffmylawn

Posted 1/9/2019 12:09 (#7232134 - in reply to #7232122)
Subject: RE: This is why I don't fear Brazil like.......

Texas, the really flat part

Yes they were. History is seldom simple or black and white. It's complicated and messy. I was just responding to a claim about our founding.

Edited by Getoffmylawn 1/9/2019 12:18

tmrand

Posted 1/9/2019 12:20 (#7232165 - in reply to #7232134)
Subject: RE: This is why I don't fear Brazil like.......

Southeast Colorado

I don't think you spent enough time thinking about what Chief Illiniwek just told you. You condemned our founding fathers based on today's moral standards. That is silly. Every day I get older I'm more impressed that those folks 200+ years ago laid out the framework of our government which allowed injustices such as women suffrage and slavery to eventually end. To just take an abrupt right turn as a leader would get you ridiculed completely out of that leadership role.

Edited by tmrand 1/9/2019 12:20

Chief Illiniwek

Posted 1/9/2019 12:22 (#7232172 - in reply to #7232165)
Subject: RE: This is why I don't fear Brazil like.......

West central IL

Tmrand is exactly right. The founding fathers took huge steps that eventually got us here, freedom-wise. You should think more critically of your criticisms.

sand85

Posted 1/9/2019 12:27 (#7232179 - in reply to #7232165)
Subject: A little early for the post of the year ...

C IL

A little early for the post of the year but this is a very thoughtful reply. Kudos.

Would have been a left turn, though :)

May we all read and think deeply about our own biases, cultural biases, and how incredibly fortunate we are to live in a society where our basic rights are inherently ours instead of granted simply because of some government law or decree. Amazing.

Conan the Farmer

Posted 1/9/2019 12:19 (#7232163 - in reply to #7232122)
Subject: RE: This is why I don't fear Brazil like.......

South Central Iowa

+Billion to Chief

Modern beliefs or social norms cannot be applied to historical people. They are to be judged in the context of their day.

In the 1700's, the rulers of the various people of the world were so much less enlightened than the Founding Fathers, it's not even worth discussion. Tell me how the continentals, Arabs, or various Asian groups lived under their princes, sheiks, sultans, Chiefs, or kings. Law was brutal and arbitrary.

Comments like from this thing above are out of ignorance and stupidity. It's a cancer on our society and should be pushed back on for what it is: ignorance, idiocy, and HATE!

Everything we have in our modern city is rooted in those founders and the inventions and achievements of Western Man. The great so out ways anything that detracts that what this fool and the bat**** left are doing with their self-flagellation is akin to complaining that the paintings in the Sistine Chapel are awful because there was no toilet paper in the restroom down the hall.

IGNORANT MORON.

tmrand

Posted 1/9/2019 12:22 (#7232170 - in reply to #7232163)
Subject: RE: This is why I don't fear Brazil like.......

Southeast Colorado

No doubt..........go get em guys!............I should have read further down the page before posting my comments above.

Conan the Farmer

Posted 1/9/2019 12:41 (#7232214 - in reply to #7232170)
Subject: RE: This is why I don't fear Brazil like.......

South Central Iowa

Yours is more measured and better than mine! Agreed completely Todd

Buck S

Posted 1/9/2019 12:44 (#7232227 - in reply to #7232163)
Subject: RE: This is why I don't fear Brazil like.......

McLeod County, MN

Thank you to you and Chief. Its nauseating how people look at history from 250 years ago through a pair of 2019, glasses.

sbark

Posted 1/9/2019 14:57 (#7232481 - in reply to #7232163)
Subject: RE: This is why I don't fear Brazil like.......

And it can be said with certainty that Europe is now way beyond letting their countries get overrun, under the excuse of compassion....get overrun by millions of so called refugees that have zero interest in any assimilation to a western civilization.

So it has now done a 180 from the days of Europes Kings exhibiting attrosities to now so compliant their societies are at risk..

Grhog

Posted 1/9/2019 18:41 (#7233013 - in reply to #7232163)
Subject: RE: This is why I don't fear Brazil like.......

Se wisc.

Let us apply the same thought to applying ancient principles to modern times( biblical standards). If that is allowable, then there are hundreds of things that need a fresh look.

Conan the Farmer

Posted 1/9/2019 19:15 (#7233139 - in reply to #7233013)
Subject: RE: This is why I don't fear Brazil like.......

South Central Iowa

Did you spend all day thinking that one up?

You're not a looney-tune, so don't defend those on your side who are. ISIS applies ancient standards to modern times. Tell me where Christian ISIS is? I know you are only referring to the Christians with your post. Muslims are a sacred cow.

As far as the Ten Commandments, those are pretty good rules to keep, no? Don't see many applying much of the rest of Judges or whatever. Maybe the don't lie with the animals one.... Should we keep it? I think so, but I'm sure the left will move on to that issue next.

ISIS destroys statues and ancient relics... Who does that sound like? Hmmmm....

Grhog

Posted 1/9/2019 22:02 (#7233663 - in reply to #7233139)
Subject: RE: This is why I don't fear Brazil like.......

Se wisc.

Wow, what a leap of faith with that post. My post was a viable excerise in the normal double standards so often dreamt by people who care not to think outside the box. Demonize those who you do not care for or even try to understand. You are very knowledgable in so many things. Yet you do not seem to be the kind of person that lets bias rule. But I may be wrong.

Edited by Grhog 1/9/2019 22:09

Grhog

Posted 1/9/2019 22:15 (#7233689 - in reply to #7233139)
Subject: RE: This is why I don't fear Brazil like.......

Se wisc.

If you want to know what I did all day I will tell you if you just ask. But I came home at 6:00 pm

vailcat

Posted 1/9/2019 14:14 (#7232409 - in reply to #7232069)
Subject: RE: This is why I don't fear Brazil like.......

NCND

Your talking about the greatest country that has ever existed you retard. We were the first to end slavery too ya know. Why don’t you Leave the country and I’ll sponsor an immigrant of my choosing for your leaving.

Good response chief

Edited by vailcat 1/9/2019 14:15

beebe44

Posted 1/9/2019 16:41 (#7232640 - in reply to #7232069)
Subject: RE: This is why I don't fear Brazil like.......

Southern Idaho

Totally off topic but funny that slavery is brought up in a farmer discussion board. I was just talking to my brother discussing how a lot of farm workers today are pretty much the equivalent of indentured servants of times past. At least that's how it is in my part of the world with irrigation being such a huge part of the labor required to farm.

Chad H

Posted 1/9/2019 18:25 (#7232948 - in reply to #7232069)
Subject: Voting and property ownership.....

NE SD

Honestly, voting probably should be at least weighted towards property ownership. How else do you keep free loaders from voting themselves a living like what is currently happening in a huge way with the democrat party?

Grhog

Posted 1/9/2019 18:30 (#7232969 - in reply to #7232948)
Subject: RE: Voting and property ownership.....

Se wisc.

What type of property. Gold, data, intellectual,. Land is just another form of property.

tmrand

Posted 1/9/2019 18:41 (#7233010 - in reply to #7232969)
Subject: RE: Voting and property ownership.....

Southeast Colorado

Mostly intellectual property............like all of your pictures and posts on your Facebook account. That makes you a real contributor to society.

Grhog

Posted 1/9/2019 18:45 (#7233034 - in reply to #7233010)
Subject: RE: Voting and property ownership.....

Se wisc.

Not following the thoughts on your post. Can you expand for me?

Edited by Grhog 1/9/2019 18:47

tmrand

Posted 1/9/2019 18:54 (#7233064 - in reply to #7233034)
Subject: RE: Voting and property ownership.....

Southeast Colorado

Just being a little sarcastic. Everyone posting on Facebook is a political genius. (that last sentence is sarcastic as well)

Edited by tmrand 1/9/2019 18:55

Grhog

Posted 1/9/2019 19:02 (#7233103 - in reply to #7233064)
Subject: RE: Voting and property ownership.....

Se wisc.

I got confused when you said " your Facebook" as I have never posted pictures or had an account. Not my cup of tea when there is NAT.

tmrand

Posted 1/9/2019 20:00 (#7233293 - in reply to #7233103)
Subject: RE: Voting and property ownership.....

Southeast Colorado

I actually don't do Facebook either. The wife loves it so she shows me stuff constantly from there. Funny thing is that I really don't see this site as being a lot different. It does seem to be just a tad more enlightened to me..............but that's probably just because most folks here think my way. LOL! Seriously though, I think most folks running their own business compared to just working for the man are a little better tuned in on what it takes to make things work.

Conan the Farmer

Posted 1/9/2019 19:23 (#7233174 - in reply to #7232969)
Subject: RE: Voting and property ownership.....

South Central Iowa

Poll Taxes and questions like "how many bubbles in a bar of soap?" did away with any chance of ever having qualifications for voting.

Personally think that a person should meet 2 of 3 qualifications to vote. Every few years, pass a civics test (like the citizenship test). Pass a current events test (broad stuff). Pay actual income tax; payroll taxes do not count. I say three to keep the last one from hindering the retired. NEVER would happen, but would be great for our country if it did. If a person doesn't know how our government functions, what the news of the day is, and doesn't pay into the system at all (doesn't have their stuff together in their own life) what business do they have voting for people who will effect the lives of others.

Doesn't matter, isn't ever going to happen, nor is that necessarily the best way. But I would be interested to see which side would be damaged more by the civics and current events test. At least 80% of voters would be off. I know the tax payer one would kill your side.

tmrand

Posted 1/9/2019 20:03 (#7233299 - in reply to #7233174)
Subject: RE: Voting and property ownership.....

Southeast Colorado

I'd just settle for passing the civics test.

Earl butz

Posted 1/11/2019 10:11 (#7237208 - in reply to #7233174)
Subject: RE: Voting and property ownership.....

Central iowa

Voting age should also be 40 if you went to college. Kids get so warped by the nutty professors. Need a decade in the real world to wake up and smell the coffee.

ricefarmer14

Posted 1/9/2019 14:15 (#7232412 - in reply to #7231924)
Subject: RE: This is why I don't fear Brazil like.......

East Arkansas

Skyfish great post

Tileman2

Posted 1/9/2019 10:36 (#7231944 - in reply to #7231881)
Subject: RE: This is why I don't fear Brazil like.......

NW IN

Good thoughts, Shadow.

It will be interesting to see how the China/SA/Africa adventures play out for the Chinese. I don't think they are dumb, but I feel like they are arrogant. "It's different this time"...said every country who's rolled the dice in those areas.

How it plays out will be interesting to say the least.

white shadow

Posted 1/9/2019 11:45 (#7232082 - in reply to #7231944)
Subject: Will the USA allow communist armies in the America's.....

East Central South Dakota

interesting thoughts that will affect producers in the United States. Mugabe and now South Africa are kicking out white colonial farmers that immigrated there from Europe centuries ago. Why do the Chinese think they will be treated any different ? ? It has been proved time and time again Ideology flows through shared borders.

The "huge" question is will the Chinese use their military power to support and protect their capital investment and are they be willing to fight a war with the people of Africa that have no regard for human life. The "huger" question will be will the United States allow a communist army to engage and police in the Southern Hemisphere of the America's knowing that Ideology crosses shared borders....

Robert Mugabe/Quotes
The only white man you can trust is a dead white man.
Our party must continue to strike fear in the heart of the white man, our real enemy!
Was it not enough punishment and suffering in history that we were uprooted and made helpless slaves not only in new colonial outposts but also domestically.

Pretty sure you could substitute "yellow man" for "white man" in these quotes....... A constant in life is people of all cultures and races want to be free and independent from Global forces outside of their borders. Populism is not a new phenomena---it has just been brought to the attention of rich elitist globalists to maybe hit the pause button to see how this experiment plays out in Europe. Maybe Europe will prove borders are useless----I have my doubts..... Shared values bring stability.

Edited by white shadow 1/9/2019 12:13

johnny skeptical

Posted 1/9/2019 12:21 (#7232169 - in reply to #7232082)
Subject: RE: Will the USA allow communist armies in the America's.....

n.c.iowa

Some pretty deep stuff there shadow.
If history gives us any clues it indicates that things will get worse before they get better.
But in regards to China, they have invested a lot abroad in the quest to make sure their people are fed, now and in the future.
In other words I think it'd be fair to say that they don't have their eggs all in one basket.

1448

Posted 1/9/2019 12:26 (#7232177 - in reply to #7232169)
Subject: RE: Will the USA allow communist armies in the America's.....

s.w. IA

Just as Japan invested in Brazil , Argentina , Malaysia and others after the Nixon embargoes. They were not going to let their food supply threatened .

Grhog

Posted 1/9/2019 18:33 (#7232982 - in reply to #7232082)
Subject: RE: Will the USA allow communist armies in the America's.....

Se wisc.

Do you ever wonder how they came to that conclusion?

Palmtopper

Posted 1/9/2019 10:38 (#7231945 - in reply to #7231881)
Subject: RE: This is why I don't fear Brazil like.......

SE Iowa

Live with it. You will be ok. Concentrate on new crop now and look for better prices to make up the potential difference.

dittfarms

Posted 1/9/2019 10:43 (#7231957 - in reply to #7231881)
Subject: RE: This is why I don't fear Brazil like.......

ottertail co mn

Great points.

Those are some of things that I am talking about when I say things we can't control. Weather and political factions.

Time will tell....

If all things remain the same prices will remain constant, change is what drives the futures market.

mikeswoh

Posted 1/9/2019 11:27 (#7232042 - in reply to #7231881)
Subject: RE: This is why I don't fear Brazil like.......

Really sad for the people living in that country, how lucky we are to live in a country like the USA.

JC STONE

Posted 1/9/2019 11:29 (#7232043 - in reply to #7231881)
Subject: RE: This is why I don't fear Brazil like.......

You'll be fine with your sale. Lot better than it was 30 days ago.

Gauner

Posted 1/9/2019 13:02 (#7232274 - in reply to #7231881)
Subject: RE: This is why I don't fear Brazil like.......

seems like some of the seeds for total breakdown of a civil society are being sown today in our country.the breadbaskets of the world have changed many times throughout history.the Roman empire was never conquered,it decayed from within.

Chad H

Posted 1/9/2019 13:14 (#7232295 - in reply to #7231881)
Subject: RE: This is why I don't fear Brazil like.......

NE SD

Todd, I've felt this way for some time. If you talk to anyone that has spent a lot of time down there and doesn't have rose colored glasses they will tell you the region lacks the stability to get the job done. It's hard to create stability with new government regimes every few years.

white shadow

Posted 1/9/2019 13:41 (#7232350 - in reply to #7232295)
Subject: RE: This is why I don't fear Brazil like.......

East Central South Dakota

Our stability is built on a Constitutional foundation. That is why we must always fight to keep our Constitutional freedoms---especially when those Constitutional Freedoms prevent the transfer of power away from the people to the governing elite. As posters said above much more eloquently than myself, the Constitution is an amazing document that will always reach into the future and still governs fairly and justly.

Edited by white shadow 1/9/2019 13:54

Red Fox

Posted 1/9/2019 13:57 (#7232376 - in reply to #7232350)
Subject: RE: This is why I don't fear Brazil like.......

Amen.

SoDak Farms

Posted 1/9/2019 17:52 (#7232823 - in reply to #7231881)
Subject: RE: This is why I don't fear Brazil like.......

EC SoDak

Personally, I wouldn’t ignore Brazil. We’ve done that for the last few decades and now they’ve surpassed us as it relates to soy. Hell, we gave them the tech and US farmers went down there to teach them how to be good farmers..... They don’t have the same feel as those countries that seem to always be in civil war either. One could make the BLM riots look like the burning in Brazil.

But..... It’s hard to tell any more because media tends to blow things out of proportion these days.

Edited by SoDak Farms 1/9/2019 18:02

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