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Abomb

Posted 11/12/2018 20:16 (#7102183)
Subject: This years loading in the road post

Surprised I hadn’t seen a thread yet about those darn BTOs . Just missed it but here was a combine unloading into a grain cart in the road. They were opening up the field and did move out of the way when I come over the hill. I thought “boy agtalk is going to love this one haha”

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Jon

Posted 11/12/2018 20:55 (#7102327 - in reply to #7102183)
Subject: RE: This years loading in the road post

Callao Missouri

The anti road loader crowd is going to have exploding heads much like the nation's liberals when this weather patern gets straighten out.

Mark (EC,IN)

Posted 11/12/2018 21:22 (#7102413 - in reply to #7102183)
Subject: RE: This years loading in the road post

Schlegel Farms, Hagerstown Indiana

I load on the road every year.

By that I mean park the truck on the road, and dump into it from the field....I do not block the road.

It's a common practice here on the back roads.

Abomb

Posted 11/12/2018 21:34 (#7102443 - in reply to #7102413)
Subject: RE: This years loading in the road post

Not many places that could be done here. I really don’t have a problem with it if a guys blocking the road if getting trucks in the field isn’t realistic whether it’s mud or bad driveways. The guy that loaded a half section of irrigated corn all on the road when there’s three driveways in the perfect spots and they would all be ideal for getting trucks off the road, now that was kind of obnoxious.

Big Ben

Posted 11/12/2018 22:10 (#7102525 - in reply to #7102183)
Subject: RE: This years loading in the road post

Columbia Basin, Ephrata, WA

We loaded on the road for the first time ever this year. Couldn’t help but think of NAT the whole time

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HuskerJ

Posted 11/12/2018 22:11 (#7102529 - in reply to #7102183)
Subject: RE: This years loading in the road post

East of Broken Bow

Couldn't do that around here, the roads are way too narrow. I suppose that's the county's way of keeping people from doing that, LOL.
Seriously, though, we have regular gravel roads that are so narrow in places, that if you pull a 14 foot swather behind you, and turn on the PTO, you can cut grass on both sides at once. Not that you'd want to, because one or the other, or even both wheels will be running in gullies, making for a very rough uneven cut.

DonkeyShowFarms

Posted 11/12/2018 22:37 (#7102563 - in reply to #7102529)
Subject: RE: This years loading in the road post

NE NEBRASKA

I swear in my area some of the hilly minimum maintenance roads aren't wide enough for 12 foot anymore.

davpal

Posted 11/12/2018 23:16 (#7102593 - in reply to #7102183)
Subject: RE: This years loading in the road post

Mid Michigan

Some of you guys look like you have ten people living in your township. Try doing that around here when a car goes by your house every 60 seconds flying back and forth down the roads. It's really not about loading on the road. It's about how much traffic you have on the road you're trying to do it on.

Abomb

Posted 11/13/2018 06:00 (#7102722 - in reply to #7102593)
Subject: RE: This years loading in the road post

That’s exactly right, on most of the roads around here the odds of a car coming up on you are very slim, for the most part.

mn2

Posted 11/13/2018 06:06 (#7102732 - in reply to #7102593)
Subject: RE: This years loading in the road post

getting to be more and more 35' heads going down the road also. came over a hill on a county tar road with the gooseneck trailer with calves and there it was, our hot shot neighbor kid driving daddy's combine with a 35 ft head on. I was going about 40 mph so I didn't put on the brakes hard. then it was the look of get the h--- out of my way. he didn't go just a mile or so he traveled 15 miles with it.

Tileman2

Posted 11/13/2018 08:06 (#7102981 - in reply to #7102732)
Subject: RE: This years loading in the road post

NW IN

About 20 years ago in eastern Indiana, someone did that.

Ended up killing 2 people. Very sad situation that was 100% preventable. Turned out to be very costly for the farmer.

blackfarmer2

Posted 11/13/2018 09:05 (#7103106 - in reply to #7102732)
Subject: RE: This years loading in the road post

mn2 - 11/13/2018 07:06

getting to be more and more 35' heads going down the road also. came over a hill on a county tar road with the gooseneck trailer with calves and there it was, our hot shot neighbor kid driving daddy's combine with a 35 ft head on. I was going about 40 mph so I didn't put on the brakes hard. then it was the look of get the h--- out of my way. he didn't go just a mile or so he traveled 15 miles with it.

I would like to see a limit on width of equipment, like they do in Europe. In my area traffic is to heavy for someone going down the road in 20ft or wider equipment. then you wonder why farmers have image problems.

Edited by blackfarmer2 11/13/2018 09:06

Big Ben

Posted 11/13/2018 09:15 (#7103131 - in reply to #7103106)
Subject: RE: This years loading in the road post

Columbia Basin, Ephrata, WA

blackfarmer2 - 11/13/2018 07:05

Don’t go regulating the rest of us just because your area has a problem.

jonas grumby

Posted 11/13/2018 09:21 (#7103146 - in reply to #7103106)
Subject: RE: This years loading in the road post

Northern Illinois

Yes. If we don't get out in front of things and regulate ourselves someone else is going to do it for us.

Tomcat

Posted 11/13/2018 06:59 (#7102844 - in reply to #7102593)
Subject: RE: This years loading in the road post

Ludington/Manistee MI area

davpal - 11/13/2018 00:16

Some of you guys look like you have ten people living in your township. Try doing that around here when a car goes by your house every 60 seconds flying back and forth down the roads. It's really not about loading on the road. It's about how much traffic you have on the road you're trying to do it on.

Bingo

Some roads we do load on some I wouldn’t dream of it. I was loading on the road last week had this moron pull up wait maybe 5 seconds and turn around. I was to the point I was topping off and slowly advancing. Bet he didn’t make it 200 yards down the road before I was full and done.

cih1660

Posted 11/13/2018 19:09 (#7104044 - in reply to #7102593)
Subject: RE: This years loading in the road post

davpal - 11/12/2018 23:16

Some of you guys look like you have ten people living in your township. Try doing that around here when a car goes by your house every 60 seconds flying back and forth down the roads. It's really not about loading on the road. It's about how much traffic you have on the road you're trying to do it on.

x2. Here it doesn't matter if it's a main county road or a back road, last year I had a dumb kid come flying around a curve almost hit me head on when I was in the forage harvester.

BHTN

Posted 11/13/2018 06:30 (#7102781 - in reply to #7102183)
Subject: RE: This years loading in the road post

West Tennessee

There will be a LOT of that here if the weather ever does let up. Still a ways to go for most here.

ahay68979

Posted 11/13/2018 08:11 (#7102990 - in reply to #7102781)
Subject: RE: This years loading in the road post

Saronville NE

We loaded pry 50%+ of this year's crop on the road due to mud. It's very common here to load on road. But we're nice and flat so can see aways. And not high traffic roads.

Cornstalk1

Posted 11/13/2018 08:19 (#7103007 - in reply to #7102183)
Subject: RE: This years loading in the road post

Midwest

It's like this. If the fields are too soft to get a semi in safely then you should road load. If the fields will support a semi then load in the field. BUT THOSE COUNTY ROADS ARE MAINTAINED BY REAL ESTATE TAX PAID BY THE FARMERS WHO ARE USING THEM. THE IDIOT THAT CAN'T WAIT PROBABLY DOES NOT PAY ANYTHING IN PROPERTY TAX. DURING HARVEST SEASON THERE ARE A LOT OF JOY RIDERS OUT THERE AND LEGALLY THEY HAVE THE SAME RIGHT TO THE ROAD BUT IN ALL PRACTICALITY THEY NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS HARVEST SEASON AND PLEASE TAKE THEIR EMPTY BEER CANS HOME.

ohio474

Posted 11/13/2018 08:36 (#7103051 - in reply to #7103007)
Subject: RE: This years loading in the road post

north east ohio in the snow belt Ashtabula co

That's right cornstalk My tax dollars keep that road from being a mud path. Shut up and wait!!!!!

It is what it is. That's all I got to say about that.

oldbones

Posted 11/13/2018 18:59 (#7104013 - in reply to #7103051)
Subject: RE: This years loading in the road post

Floyd County, Iowa

So when you two drive your trucks on city streets taking loads to the elevator, who is paying for those streets?
just sayin..........

paul the original

Posted 11/13/2018 08:39 (#7103057 - in reply to #7103007)
Subject: RE: This years loading in the road post

southern MN

I understand your views.

In recent years, more and more the roads are being degraded, muddled up, and loading on the road by fellows several counties away. The land is owned by someone living half a state away.

Not much local going on any more, no one involved in making things worse ever has to drive by or grade or deal with the mess.

The farmers are as removed as the joy riders you mention.

Is what it is, but it sure is t what it used to be.

Paul

Big Ben

Posted 11/13/2018 08:56 (#7103087 - in reply to #7103057)
Subject: RE: This years loading in the road post

Columbia Basin, Ephrata, WA

paul the original - 11/13/2018 06:39

In recent years, more and more the roads are being degraded, muddled up, and loading on the road by fellows several counties away. The land is owned by someone living half a state away.

Not much local going on any more, no one involved in making things worse ever has to drive by or grade or deal with the mess.

The farmers are as removed as the joy riders you mention.

Paul

But are the joyriders paying the RE taxes like the distant farmer and LL are?

PatCMO

Posted 11/13/2018 12:39 (#7103490 - in reply to #7103057)
Subject: RE: This years loading in the road post

Pilot Grove, Missouri

The landowner not being local does not change that they pay property taxes, that fund the roads. Patrick

blackfarmer2

Posted 11/13/2018 09:02 (#7103100 - in reply to #7103007)
Subject: RE: This years loading in the road post

Cornstalk1 - 11/13/2018 09:19

It's like this. If the fields are too soft to get a semi in safely then you should road load. If the fields will support a semi then load in the field. BUT THOSE COUNTY ROADS ARE MAINTAINED BY REAL ESTATE TAX PAID BY THE FARMERS WHO ARE USING THEM. THE IDIOT THAT CAN'T WAIT PROBABLY DOES NOT PAY ANYTHING IN PROPERTY TAX. DURING HARVEST SEASON THERE ARE A LOT OF JOY RIDERS OUT THERE AND LEGALLY THEY HAVE THE SAME RIGHT TO THE ROAD BUT IN ALL PRACTICALITY THEY NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS HARVEST SEASON AND PLEASE TAKE THEIR EMPTY BEER CANS HOME.

so your the most important person in the world. see pauls comment, He hit it right on. then wonder why farmers have image problems. no problem with semi parked on the side, loading from the field. improve your field access if you cant do that.

Edited by blackfarmer2 11/13/2018 09:07

Cornstalk1

Posted 11/13/2018 09:27 (#7103162 - in reply to #7103100)
Subject: RE: This years loading in the road post

Midwest

No I am not the most important person in the world. But, These are very rural roads with local traffic by local people. Most understand the situation and are respectful (I have moved out of the way with the grain cart many times). There are some out there that do not have a good reason to be out there. I understand that use of a road does not require a "reason justification" but harvest is a time when there needs to be some extra consideration for those working in tough conditions. jmho

povertypoint

Posted 11/14/2018 09:38 (#7105087 - in reply to #7103162)
Subject: RE: This years loading in the road post

SE SD

Cornstalk1 - 11/13/2018 08:27

No I am not the most important person in the world. But, These are very rural roads with local traffic by local people. Most understand the situation and are respectful (I have moved out of the way with the grain cart many times). There are some out there that do not have a good reason to be out there. I understand that use of a road does not require a "reason justification" but harvest is a time when there needs to be some extra consideration for those working in tough conditions. jmho

Hahaha......you have got to be kidding :)

Just remember, every one of them drivers you piss off, has a vote.

BTW, I am about to leave my house, do I have your permission to use the road, or
do I needed to give you a "good reason" to be on the road. :) lol

jfreed

Posted 11/13/2018 19:11 (#7104053 - in reply to #7103007)
Subject: RE: This years loading in the road post

South West Michigan

Cornstalk1 - 11/13/2018 08:19 It's like this. If the fields are too soft to get a semi in safely then you should road load. If the fields will support a semi then load in the field. BUT THOSE COUNTY ROADS ARE MAINTAINED BY REAL ESTATE TAX PAID BY THE FARMERS WHO ARE USING THEM. THE IDIOT THAT CAN'T WAIT PROBABLY DOES NOT PAY ANYTHING IN PROPERTY TAX. DURING HARVEST SEASON THERE ARE A LOT OF JOY RIDERS OUT THERE AND LEGALLY THEY HAVE THE SAME RIGHT TO THE ROAD BUT IN ALL PRACTICALITY THEY NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS HARVEST SEASON AND PLEASE TAKE THEIR EMPTY BEER CANS HOME.

Is there ANY money that comes out of the registration fee at the DMV in you county pertaining to road maintenance?? BTW, how do you know they HAVE beer cans??

KDD

Posted 11/13/2018 12:33 (#7103474 - in reply to #7102183)
Subject: RE: This years loading in the road post

Leesburg, Ohio

I guess I don't see why both the combine and the cart in the OP had to be on the road...looks dry...I don't ever recall a situation where the combine couldn't make a spot in the field for the cart to get into the field. Why are they both on the road? OTOH, I was not there...

That said, we do "load on the road" frequently here. But by that, I mean we park ONLY the trucks on the edge of the road, NOT BLOCKING the entire road, and we drive the cart IN THE FIELD alongside the ditch, and unload the cart across the ditch into the trucks. And we only do it on township or county roads, not state highways. So, I don't get why some here get the their shorts in a wad when the road is not blocked, the way we do it.

I also do not agree with more regulations limiting equipment widths. I fully understand some communities have very narrow roads, hills, trees, residential properties, etc., that make it very difficult to move wide equipment. But the remedy to that should not be one-size-fits-all regulation. Use some discretion about removing heads and putting equipment in transport configuration. Use some common sense about avoiding high traffic hours to move. DON'T restrict those in un-populated, wide-open countryside from moving wide equipment where it is safe and common practice to do so. Understand that there are very great differences in different communities. The whole world does not necessarily look like it does out your front door.

Abomb

Posted 11/13/2018 13:29 (#7103573 - in reply to #7103474)
Subject: RE: This years loading in the road post

It looked to me like the cart was already on the side of the road waiting for the combine to get across the endrow, then the cart went up the road to the bin. So it made sense to just slip out quick with the combine and unload. After the field was opened up I doubt they were on the road at all anymore. They surely could have done it off the road if they wanted, but oh well it was just me and I really didn’t have to wait either.

KDD

Posted 11/13/2018 18:39 (#7103958 - in reply to #7103573)
Subject: RE: This years loading in the road post

Leesburg, Ohio

Makes sense, like i said, i was not there, you were. At least it looks like a road that would have very little traffic.

case8930

Posted 11/13/2018 12:39 (#7103491 - in reply to #7102183)
Subject: RE: This years loading in the road post

East Central, NE

To me, loading on the road basically just comes down to common sense. If its a fairly busy road...Don't do it. If you're loading where visibility of traffic may be an issue...Don't do it. If you're tearing up the roads with trucks or tractors...Don't do it.

PatCMO

Posted 11/13/2018 12:45 (#7103503 - in reply to #7102183)
Subject: RE: This years loading in the road post

Pilot Grove, Missouri

I have loaded on the road and will when the necesssity arises. Some fields it is th only thing that makes sense. Usually can get the trucks into the field or at least off to the edge of the road and load from the field. Had one field that I had the truck off the edge of the road and the cart on the road. There was still room for a vehicle to squeeze by if they were in that big of a hurry. Haven't heard too many complaints here. Patrick

Wayne A

Posted 11/13/2018 13:49 (#7103601 - in reply to #7102183)
Subject: RE: This years loading in the road post

Central In

The fields on my road load with the trucks in the road...well mostly in the road. Across the road from me they leave the one set of wheels in the grass...problem is, I mow that nicely and they left bad ruts. I guess I would rather they were fully in the road.

Unit 2

Posted 11/13/2018 16:29 (#7103747 - in reply to #7102183)
Subject: RE: This years loading in the road post

We had a very interesting situation take place a couple of years ago when we were unloading on a narrow township road one evening. The wife of one of the guys driving truck for us was listening on the police scanner and heard there was a high-speed chase out in the county. She called her husband and asked what road we were on. When he told her, she said there is a high-speed chase coming right at you going 85 to 90 miles per hour. By the time he got on the radio to warn all of us we could see the red and blue lights coming and there was not time to do anything. The car being chased had a choice of hitting the grain cart or taking the ditch. He took the ditch. I think the only thing that got him out of it was his momentum. I could not see how he would ever make it out of the ditch, but he did. By the time the chasers got there the grain cart driver was able to get off the road enough to let them by. There were city police, highway patrol, and four or five sheriff cars. I was in a semi returning to the field from the elevator on a cross road. I could have very easily parked the semi at the cross roads and blocked the guy being chased but I decided that was not the time to be a hero. If he would have crashed into the semi and was injured or killed, guess who would have been liable.

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