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bar1farm
Posted 6/25/2018 21:34 (#6834272)
Subject: 60x80 shop


Storm took my old shop down going to put up a 60x80, any ideas on layout 1 or 2 overheads? Pole style or steel? Anyone use perma columns. Any photos?
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jtpfarm
Posted 6/25/2018 21:36 (#6834283 - in reply to #6834272)
Subject: RE: 60x80 shop


mn		Personally, I would put in a large door on the end and a medium size door on the side at the opposite end.

Edited by jtpfarm 6/25/2018 21:54
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hd6gtom
Posted 6/25/2018 21:39 (#6834292 - in reply to #6834283)
Subject: RE: 60x80 shop


I agree with this fellow on the size and door location and then spray foam it.
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JRM
Posted 6/25/2018 21:40 (#6834300 - in reply to #6834272)
Subject: RE: 60x80 shop


MN		My shop is 54'x64'. Put a 24' overhead on one end and a 16' overhead on the side offset to the opposite end of the shop as the end with the door.
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Hurricane
Posted 6/25/2018 21:45 (#6834313 - in reply to #6834272)
Subject: RE: 60x80 shop


I have a 40 foot on one end and a 16 foot on the side, it's nice to have a couple doors. I like the perma columns, I doubt poles will last 15 years in the soil if we keep getting 15 inches of rain every June anymore.



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boog
Posted 6/25/2018 22:31 (#6834438 - in reply to #6834272)
Subject: RE: 60x80 shop



If you're going to put up a pole building I would strongley recommend using perm-a-columns. I put up a pole barn in 1978, perm-a- columns were unheard of thrn. Around 2008 we found the post were almost completly rotten about 6" below the surface. Had a contractor cutout thebad & replace with perm-a- columns and relevel the building. Have since built 2 more pole buildings, a 80 x120 x 18' shop in 2012 & just put up a 72 x120x18 cold storage building. Both have perm-a-columns.

We priced a steel frame building before putting up the current building. Steel cost about 1/3 more. Our 80 x 120 shop originanlly had a 40x18 double slider in on end & a 16 x 30 OH door on the side just over 1/2 way back. Should have went with a 32' oh as we had to add an extra column 2' from another column to accomodate the 30' door as columns are 8'oc. In 2014 we replaced the sliders with a 40 x 18 hyd door. Only issue we have with the hyd door is that it's slow up & down. Takes about 52 seconds each way compared to the OH at under 15 seconds each way. We have a 30' concrete apron in front of the hyd door. Makes a nice place for quick repairs & the door makes for good shade when raised. Building has 2" closed foam insulation on the walls & 38" of blown insulation above the ceiling and is heated by 2 60' x 175,000btu infrared tube heaters.If had to do over I would have a skim coating of cl9sed cell foam put on the ceiling before blowing in the insulation.

New building has a moisture barrier baked on the underside of the roof metal. Seems to be noticeadly cooler than old shed that has plain metal on the roof.
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bspf
Posted 6/26/2018 06:27 (#6834730 - in reply to #6834438)
Subject: RE: 60x80 shop



N.E. Iowa		watching
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JAnderson
Posted 6/26/2018 07:11 (#6834796 - in reply to #6834272)
Subject: RE: 60x80 shop


McCanna, ND		We have a large single piece door on the end wall of our shop,38Wx20T and a 24Wx18T overhead on the side wall. 80’ long might be a little short by the time you figure wall creep in if you have a semi. Also, if your ever planning on getting 60’ wide equipment it’s kinda hard to unfold in a 60’ wide building that’s more like 58’ on the inside. Neighbors are having those regrets with their 60’ wide shop. I’d make sure the inside height is at least 18’ tall as well
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801486
Posted 6/26/2018 07:26 (#6834831 - in reply to #6834272)
Subject: RE: 60x80 shop


west central Iowa		If I was gonna work in it in the summer time I would want doors facing each other on the north and south so the breeze can blow through.
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Too Tall
Posted 6/26/2018 07:51 (#6834887 - in reply to #6834831)
Subject: RE: 60x80 shop


Northwest IA. Near Ft. Dodge		Pole building. Use footer with a 1 or 2 foot insulated stubwall , buy 16 foot sideway building, then you can have foot + door. One good overhead door other wise you have not as much wall space. Hydraulic door is ok, but slow, can get higher door in though if that is what you want. If it is hydraulic, get in habit of never parking outside of it. Air conditioning is a must in my opinion.

Edited by Too Tall 6/26/2018 07:53
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Redrat
Posted 6/26/2018 08:22 (#6834952 - in reply to #6834272)
Subject: RE: 60x80 shop


Southeast mn		Thats the size we put up in 08'. We put a 36 x 16 bifold on one end and a 14 ×14 on the side away from bifold. Our big door faces west the problem we have is in winter or on windy days you cant open it for fear of damage. The other door faces south and we use that for skidloader and semi entrance. Our shed is a wick and have had great luck. I wasnt worried about perma columns since the treated wood posts have a better quality treatment. If you own a semi i would make it 6ft. Wider since you cant open hood to check oil or grease unless the door is open.
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KDD
Posted 6/26/2018 15:42 (#6835576 - in reply to #6834272)
Subject: RE: 60x80 shop



Leesburg, Ohio		Our main shop has a 34' hydraulic door in one gable end, and a 14' overhead on one side near the back. Good arrangement for multiple projects in the shop at once.

If I were doing it again, on a building about 60x80 or larger, I would consider multiple 24' or 30' wide overhead doors on one side, and a lower height office wing on one gable end.

It is very important, IMHO, to thoroughly insulate not only the walls and ceiling, but especially the footer/foundation. On our last addition to the shop, we put 1-1/2" Styrofoam board on top of the footer and up the stem wall on the outside of the wall. It matches up with the thickness of the wall purlins, and is covered by flat trim stock to match the steel siding, We also insulated the outer 4' perimeter under the concrete floor, and installed floor heat. Very nice heat, very comfortable set at only 58 degrees.
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535 quadtrack
Posted 6/26/2018 19:36 (#6835936 - in reply to #6835576)
Subject: RE: 60x80 shop


SOUTHERN MN		We put in a 16 foot and 24 foot door side by side with the removable beam in the center. This way you have the best of everything. Can use the small door, the big door or both of them. This is in on a 80X100 shop. This would be in a steel frame building.

Edited by 535 quadtrack 6/26/2018 19:37
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301
Posted 6/27/2018 18:46 (#6837794 - in reply to #6835936)
Subject: RE: 60x80 shop


That BOOG guy must have been spending Grandpas money ,, and needs to get a job
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djmranch
Posted 6/27/2018 20:16 (#6837956 - in reply to #6837794)
Subject: RE: 60x80 shop


NW Minnesota		301, That comment is of no value to this forum. Someone takes the time to offer advice and experience and you shoot them down for it. Everybody's needs and circumstances are different. I know I've been stung by comments like yours and am very careful what I choose to post on the forum because of it. If you don't have something useful to ad, keep it to yourself!
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