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FARNORTHEAST
Posted 5/16/2018 07:58 (#6762968)
Subject: How deep can I plant soybeans chasing moisture?


Got some very dry fields and no rain in two months. I'm at 2 inches and am still above the moisture. Do I dare go deeper? Seeding with an 1890 John Deere.
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cbellfarms
Posted 5/16/2018 08:01 (#6762976 - in reply to #6762968)
Subject: RE: How deep can I plant soybeans chasing moisture?



NW IL, Mercer County
They wont grow sitting in dry dirt.
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mhagny
Posted 5/16/2018 08:16 (#6762992 - in reply to #6762968)
Subject: RE: How deep can I plant soybeans chasing moisture?


FARNORTHEAST - 5/16/2018 06:58 Got some very dry fields and no rain in two months. I'm at 2 inches and am still above the moisture. Do I dare go deeper? Seeding with an 1890 John Deere.

Yes, they'll usually come from 2.5 - 3" unless you get a pounding rain on them and some crusting. The problem is getting an 1890 to hold that depth.  (Decreasing ground speed helps, unless you pile on a lot of ballast and have our UniForce system.)

With soybeans, it's not good enough to be in slightly moist soil.  They need to be embedded in thoroughly wet soil.  One of the best farmers I know says that he wants soybeans 1" below the moisture line when it's starting to get dry.

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FARNORTHEAST
Posted 5/16/2018 08:41 (#6763023 - in reply to #6762992)
Subject: RE: How deep can I plant soybeans chasing moisture?


I have it prepped for our usually wet spring. It was loose and mulched down 4 inches so I can hold the depth, just don't know how low to go. With the dust falling into the trench you need to be an inch below the moisture just to get it into the moisture.
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Earl butz
Posted 5/16/2018 09:05 (#6763051 - in reply to #6762968)
Subject: RE: How deep can I plant soybeans chasing moisture?


Central iowa
Keep seed size in mind. I planted some very large beans 2in deep for first time this year at a 125000 pop. A good number of them are breaking their necks trying to get the huge cotyldon up.
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FARNORTHEAST
Posted 5/16/2018 10:37 (#6763131 - in reply to #6763051)
Subject: RE: How deep can I plant soybeans chasing moisture?


I never would have thought of that. I always assumed bigger would be better insofar as deep seeding goes.
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rab1964
Posted 5/16/2018 11:32 (#6763183 - in reply to #6762968)
Subject: RE: How deep can I plant soybeans chasing moisture?



I know most on here will say there is no way, but I have planted beans 4.5-5" deep and raised good beans doing so. Not highly recommended but it did work once for me. There was no chemical applied to this field, that helps. 3" would not bother me at all, I routinely plant beans 2" deep.
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brad c
Posted 5/16/2018 17:35 (#6763504 - in reply to #6762992)
Subject: RE: How deep can I plant soybeans chasing moisture?


Carbondale, KS
I couldn't agree more.
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turdypointbuck
Posted 5/16/2018 21:35 (#6763883 - in reply to #6762968)
Subject: RE: How deep can I plant soybeans chasing moisture?



NW Barton County Missouri
1 1/2 would be pushing it here. Just my experience.
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Bill Moyer
Posted 5/16/2018 22:44 (#6764042 - in reply to #6762968)
Subject: RE: How deep can I plant soybeans chasing moisture?



Coldwater, Michigan
Whether you go deeper can depend on Cotyledon length. Covered was too deep for the original Beeson Soybeans because they had a very short Cotyledon. Callhans would take deep planting fairly well because the Cotyledon was potentially very long.


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Brahamfireman
Posted 5/17/2018 10:29 (#6764610 - in reply to #6763183)
Subject: RE: How deep can I plant soybeans chasing moisture?


Braham MN.
rab1964 - 5/16/2018 11:32

I know most on here will say there is no way, but I have planted beans 4.5-5" deep and raised good beans doing so. Not highly recommended but it did work once for me. There was no chemical applied to this field, that helps. 3" would not bother me at all, I routinely plant beans 2" deep.


First year with my 800 cyclo, one of the depth control pivots over centered and left 1 row with no depth control, don't know how deep they went but that row came up 4 or 5 days before the rest of the field.

Edited by Brahamfireman 5/17/2018 10:30
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boog
Posted 5/17/2018 19:48 (#6765248 - in reply to #6762968)
Subject: RE: How deep can I plant soybeans chasing moisture?



I never planted beans deeper than 2". If there is no moisure @ 2" I would go back & plant them at normal depth in dry soil. When it rains they will be up while you'rr neighbors who stopped plantint to wait on rain are waiting for the soil to dry out. If it doesn't rain, collect your crop ins money cause it's not going to matter how deep they were planted. Two things can happen if you plant them too deep chasing moisture: 1. doesn't rain & beans swell, mou sture goes on down leaving bean in dry dirt to die. 2 rains & beans that were planted deep to start are now deeper & struugle to get up& lose. their vigor.
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mhagny
Posted 5/18/2018 04:38 (#6765700 - in reply to #6763023)
Subject: RE: How deep can I plant soybeans chasing moisture?


FARNORTHEAST - 5/16/2018 07:41 I have it prepped for our usually wet spring. It was loose and mulched down 4 inches so I can hold the depth, just don't know how low to go. With the dust falling into the trench you need to be an inch below the moisture just to get it into the moisture.

I would've guessed no-till based on your using a JD 1890.  Dust falling into the furrow ahead of the seed is the main reason that a JD 50/60/90 opener isn't a good choice for tilled situations. 

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nekfarmer
Posted 5/18/2018 07:20 (#6765936 - in reply to #6765700)
Subject: RE: How deep can I plant soybeans chasing moisture?


NE KS
Any decent chances of rain anytime soon? If not I would burry them until you find moisture, at worst you'll have to replant some when, if it does rain but planted in the dust they won't come up until it rains anyway
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711bert
Posted 5/18/2018 11:05 (#6766256 - in reply to #6765936)
Subject: RE: How deep can I plant soybeans chasing moisture?


we've had good luck either way, but never deeper than 2,25 inch.
we're on heavy clay, neighbor once had a custom worker put them 3-3.5 inches down and they came, but his crop yielded 30-35 bpa while everybody around us had 45-50 bpa.

in clay soil i'd really watch your depth.
but never put beans shallower than 1 inch.
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