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hone570
Posted 2/7/2018 08:52 (#6560706)
Subject: Calmer Rolls--Are they worth it?


EC WI
I have a great 6 row Hugger head all poly I will never part with in need of new flutes this year and looking at options at the farm show last week, Calmer has a complete roll kit for a 6 row Hugger for $7500 on special! I think that is nuts.
With the hard facing plates built up every year, the roll life is 1000A/row?
Would last the rest of this heads life for 250A/corn/yr.
Right now we run a Loftness and chop all stalks anyway, that is how they come up with the astronomical cost of these to remove that extra pass at $11/A. It would take 3 years for them to pay. I would be selling my 20' Loftness just to buy a set of rolls!

Convince me they are worth it, I totally understand how much time I could save but I need some farmer facts here, not just what I was told Wednesday.
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berggrenfarms
Posted 2/7/2018 09:25 (#6560794 - in reply to #6560706)
Subject: RE: Calmer Rolls--Are they worth it?


Nebraska, The land of corn and cattle

Theres a guy on here who made some rolls last year, they look similar to the Yield 360 chainrolls, I hope he posts again. Id love to hear how they worked.

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jdbob8100
Posted 2/7/2018 09:27 (#6560797 - in reply to #6560706)
Subject: RE: Calmer Rolls--Are they worth it?


ND
Put set of 8 rows on 4 yrs ago, chops everything into 2 to 3" pcs but leaves a 24" stalk post standing, but varies with the corn as some stalks more brittle & it chops them down to 6" high off ground & other BT corn you have this 24" stalk standing. To be better needs the swinging blades to cut down post but there its buying a more expensive corn head. I like it -a poor farmers chopping corn head. Have on a 843 but its a 8r22.
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AGB
Posted 2/7/2018 12:21 (#6561124 - in reply to #6560706)
Subject: RE: Calmer Rolls--Are they worth it?


Mid-Michigan
What does chopping your stalks do for you?
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#iafarmer
Posted 2/7/2018 12:23 (#6561132 - in reply to #6560706)
Subject: RE: Calmer Rolls--Are they worth it?


This year was our fourth year running calmer knife rolls. We run the whole kit besides beveled deck plates. Certain varieties get chopped up more than others. If you fungicide they really do a good job with a healthier stalk.



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hone570
Posted 2/7/2018 12:35 (#6561147 - in reply to #6561124)
Subject: RE: Calmer Rolls--Are they worth it?


EC WI
Speeds up decomp for us greatly. Lots of COC no-till, some fields over 15yrs. Yes residue sizing and buildup is our issue. Very successful for us, but could these take the choppers' place is my main question and still have a highly successful COC no-till situation.
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flyinfarmer
Posted 2/7/2018 12:36 (#6561149 - in reply to #6560706)
Subject: RE: Calmer Rolls--Are they worth it?



NE Iowa
Does anyone have experience planting no-till beans following corn harvested with Calmer's rolls? Currently have fluted rolls on my 893, but am thinking they may need some attention before next Fall. We no-till the beans with a 16x15" JD 7000 with no row cleaner or coulters - 1st thing to hit the trash are the double disc openers. Usually run with the old corn row putting a bean row 7 1/2' either side of the old corn row. Years ago, the amount of corn stalk debris was such that this resulted in a well planted field of beans. Lots more fodder to deal with today (Bt corn, fungicide use, etc). Still get the beans planted ok, but not hard to find some on top of trash. Am also rolling them right after planting.

Bottom line is will the mat of 2-3" trash that the Calmers leave behind deteriorate enough by Spring for our planter to get through it ok and get beans planted in the dirt instead of leaving them on top of the straw?

BTW - this is East Central Iowa.

Thanks,
Chris
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AGB
Posted 2/7/2018 12:41 (#6561163 - in reply to #6561147)
Subject: RE: Calmer Rolls--Are they worth it?


Mid-Michigan
hone570 - 2/7/2018 12:35

Speeds up decomp for us greatly. Lots of COC no-till, some fields over 15yrs. Yes residue sizing and buildup is our issue. Very successful for us, but could these take the choppers' place is my main question and still have a highly successful COC no-till situation.


I got it.
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flyndeere
Posted 2/7/2018 21:15 (#6562285 - in reply to #6561149)
Subject: RE: Calmer Rolls--Are they worth it?


central illinois
Have had BT Calmer rolls on a 1976 643 for 7 years and no till beans White 23 row 15 inch planter never had a problem. Would not go back to the Deere rolls.
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flyinfarmer
Posted 2/8/2018 08:20 (#6562947 - in reply to #6562285)
Subject: RE: Calmer Rolls--Are they worth it?



NE Iowa
Do you have any row cleaners or coulters on your planter?
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jdbob8100
Posted 2/11/2018 11:49 (#6570312 - in reply to #6562947)
Subject: RE: Calmer Rolls--Are they worth it?


ND
I have a similar setup with Calmers for 4 seasons with a newer JD planter with Yetter manually set but lightly, moving trash out of way.
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