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deerefever
Posted 1/4/2015 18:50 (#4287110)
Subject: Price of a 40'x60'shop


Looking at putting up a new shop this year,40x60 with floor heat, 30'door.The shop will be a pole type building.Looking for thoughts ideas etc.Wondering on a ballpark price.thanks deerefever.
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Thud
Posted 1/4/2015 18:54 (#4287126 - in reply to #4287110)
Subject: RE: Price of a 40'x60'shop


Near-north Ontario, French River
Around here( Ontario ) I'd figure on $50-55/sq foot, thats concrete floor, insulated walls, with barn steel interior, lighting, electrical , and heat. sooooo +-$132k. Going to be heavily dependant on local market, level of insulation etc etc.
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deerefever
Posted 1/4/2015 18:58 (#4287134 - in reply to #4287110)
Subject: RE: Price of a 40'x60'shop


Would like to do 16'foot sidewalls and a simple bathroom.
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farmer82
Posted 1/4/2015 18:59 (#4287138 - in reply to #4287134)
Subject: RE: Price of a 40'x60'shop


S.E. Iowa
Iput up a shed this summer for about 28000. Just shed no electric. It is 50 x 90
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s205
Posted 1/4/2015 19:06 (#4287170 - in reply to #4287138)
Subject: RE: Price of a 40'x60'shop


Fayette Co, Iowa
48x76.radiant heat,18 foot sidewalls, 16x24 door. 4 windows, cement 6 inches with rebar 2x2. cement approach 24x 40. 24x8 loft. wired, t-5 lights, wainscoat , and 8x16 overhead awning over walk in door. drain in the front half of shop. Roughly $83,000.00.... Not including fill lime, and 2 inch rock.
Few other items not mentioned above. 2 ft overhang, rain gutters, and water line to the shed. So if I added every last penny on the shop going to be pushing $86,500.00.

Edited by s205 1/4/2015 19:08
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Thud
Posted 1/4/2015 19:09 (#4287179 - in reply to #4287134)
Subject: RE: Price of a 40'x60'shop


Near-north Ontario, French River
Ours is 48x64x18 , one 25ft door, 2 man doors, full concrete with force air heat. Had to so some dirt work to bring things up above grade, run some wire to a pole , small office and bathroom inside, LOTS of lights ... it all adds up.. haven't seen the final bill yet but I'm thinking it came in around 150-155k. If I were you i'd consider going to 18ft walls, slight increase in cost but the added height is really nice. Keep in mind you could lose a foot or so of ceiling clearance for lights and as much as 2 ft around any ceiling fans.
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Haakfarm
Posted 1/4/2015 19:16 (#4287205 - in reply to #4287170)
Subject: RE: Price of a 40'x60'shop


SC north dakota
Was this a name brand building ? Is it built good? I like that price.
Thank you
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dewgubbe
Posted 1/4/2015 19:16 (#4287206 - in reply to #4287179)
Subject: RE: Price of a 40'x60'shop


Northeast Nebraska
I just built a 40x50x12. Did it all myself with the help of a few friends. Used ICFs for a 16" stemwall. (2) 10x10 OH doors, one walk door, and 5 windows. 2' overhangs all the way around. 18x18 covered porch that wraps around a corner. Floor heat, floor drain, bathroom, utility room.

I haven't figured everything to the penny yet, but I've got between 40-45k in materials.

Lots of hours spent building. Mine was stick built with 2x6s. I recommend it, even for taller walls. I then netted the walls and blew fiberglass in the walls. I also recommend that. I blew cellulose in the attic to R60. I have steel ceiling, and OSB walls.
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Fantasy1143
Posted 1/4/2015 19:34 (#4287280 - in reply to #4287206)
Subject: RE: Price of a 40'x60'shop



Germantown, Ohio
Have any pics of netting the walls. Building one right now and trying to decide how to insulate the walls.
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dewgubbe
Posted 1/4/2015 19:39 (#4287294 - in reply to #4287280)
Subject: RE: Price of a 40'x60'shop


Northeast Nebraska
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White Workhorse
Posted 1/4/2015 19:46 (#4287318 - in reply to #4287206)
Subject: RE: Price of a 40'x60'shop


Sourthern WI
More pics please. How are you going to/did you finish the ICF's on the inside and outside?
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dewgubbe
Posted 1/4/2015 19:47 (#4287325 - in reply to #4287294)
Subject: RE: Price of a 40'x60'shop


Northeast Nebraska
Sorry, no pics of in process insulation blowing. Netting my building took 2 people one hour to hang all the netting. Then it took one guy another 8 hours to staple it. We went through 20000 staples. Rented a stapler and it never jammed or misfired once. The special staplers have no safety to depress the tip with. They just fire as fast as you can pull the trigger.

Once the net it strung up and secured in a few places, you start in the middle and work out. Really works nice.

On my walls, which were a cavity 128" tall, one slit in the middle worked to fill it up. Stuck the hose in and began filling bottom, then started filling the top and worked back. Blow in fiberglass is not itchy at all. Its more like cotton. Its 100% clean. No dust.
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dewgubbe
Posted 1/4/2015 19:51 (#4287336 - in reply to #4287325)
Subject: RE: Price of a 40'x60'shop


Northeast Nebraska
From the outside, you'd never know I used ICFs.

I attached a 1x12 green treated board to ICF centered where the steel would meet ground level. I attached 2x4 nailers onto my 2x6 walls to screw the tin to. I offset the sole plate on the stem wall so that the 2x4 nailers would be flush with the 1x12 on the icf
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jimgen
Posted 1/4/2015 19:53 (#4287341 - in reply to #4287280)
Subject: RE: Price of a 40'x60'shop


central mich


In 2013 we added 64 ft to 60 wide pole barn. 16ft high. Actual cost was right at $26,000. Labor was about $5600, steel was $12,000 and wood was $8400 with heavy trusses.

Poured concrete in 2014. Did our own concrete but had about 87 yards for 6" floor plus 30ft x 30ft pad. So about $7500 in concrete.
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beachfarmer
Posted 1/4/2015 20:10 (#4287395 - in reply to #4287325)
Subject: RE: Price of a 40'x60'shop


North Central MN
Why not just use unfaced bats? Seems like a lot of extra work.
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dewgubbe
Posted 1/4/2015 20:18 (#4287418 - in reply to #4287395)
Subject: RE: Price of a 40'x60'shop


Northeast Nebraska
Because bats don't fill all of the cavity unless it was constructed perfectly. Meaning a stud could of gotten off a half inch. Shouldn't happen but it does. I know I framed mine and thought I did a perfect job, but there were some studs not perfectly 16"oc everytime.

You get a narrow cavity around a window or door you just keep on moving blowing it in.

Blow in will be more dense.
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beachfarmer
Posted 1/4/2015 20:33 (#4287473 - in reply to #4287418)
Subject: RE: Price of a 40'x60'shop


North Central MN
I built my whole house and garage myself and used bats and never had an issue I guess. Thought it went pretty well but to each his own.
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carlsoncl
Posted 1/4/2015 20:48 (#4287542 - in reply to #4287110)
Subject: RE: Price of a 40'x60'shop


Beresford, SD
Deerefever. Build a 2*6 stud wall building. By the time your done insulating and lining the barn it will be cheaper and superior to a pole barn. Pole barns are better designed for cold storage. Depending on how often you open the doors every day will change heating plans. Build a shop...best money spent on the farm. I went out this am to feed cattle and had no doubt my equipment would start!
Edit. Build at least a 50x60 shop. Mine is that size and dads is a 42x48. Huge diffrence in usable space.

Edited by carlsoncl 1/4/2015 22:40
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jedstivers
Posted 1/4/2015 21:40 (#4287703 - in reply to #4287110)
Subject: RE: Price of a 40'x60'shop



Marianna Arkansas
If you can do a 50x50 or 50x60. 40 just isn't wide enough for me and 10 more feet make a hugh difference.
I had a 40x40 and couldn't do anything in it, bought a 50x75 and its huge. Rented a farm with a 50x50 and its seems like double the size of my 40x40 I had.
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Jmo1999
Posted 1/4/2015 21:41 (#4287707 - in reply to #4287473)
Subject: RE: Price of a 40'x60'shop


Here
I would use spray foam, I riped out old insulation in my shop 2 yrs ago and spray foamed. best thing I could have done, cut down on drafts and heating
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kggonzo
Posted 1/4/2015 21:41 (#4287710 - in reply to #4287395)
Subject: RE: Price of a 40'x60'shop


Northeast Nebraska and Candelaria Philippines
beachfarmer - 1/4/2015 20:10

Why not just use unfaced bats? Seems like a lot of extra work.


I used batts in a building once. NEVER AGAIN will I touch the stuff. Too, ichy. Can't be good for the lungs, even if you "try" to wear a mask.

The R-value of blown fiberglass should be better then batts. If you have ROMEX in the walls, batts don't work that well either.
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beachfarmer
Posted 1/4/2015 22:04 (#4287775 - in reply to #4287710)
Subject: RE: Price of a 40'x60'shop


North Central MN
kggonzo - 1/4/2015 21:41

beachfarmer - 1/4/2015 20:10

Why not just use unfaced bats? Seems like a lot of extra work.


I used batts in a building once. NEVER AGAIN will I touch the stuff. Too, ichy. Can't be good for the lungs, even if you "try" to wear a mask.

The R-value of blown fiberglass should be better then batts. If you have ROMEX in the walls, batts don't work that well either.


The new batts don't itch near as bad, although it still does get a little itchy. Wire in the wall is fairly easy to go around, I kept it all a couple feet off the floor and just peel the batt in two and feed it behind. Price wise, batts works just fine if you know what you're doing.
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Pofarmer
Posted 1/4/2015 22:42 (#4287860 - in reply to #4287206)
Subject: RE: Price of a 40'x60'shop



What centers were your trusses on and did you double a stud on a truss?
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jd8770
Posted 1/4/2015 23:00 (#4287887 - in reply to #4287703)
Subject: RE: Price of a 40'x60'shop


sc kansas
put up a all steel 48 by 66ft lucas building with 16ft sidewalls and 6ft by 3 inch thick bat insulation all the way around and on roof with a 8ft steel liner package, one 16ft by 14ft and one 12 by 12 ft overhead insulated doors, two 4 by 4 ft windows, one walk door and electrical and cement for $45,000. did all labor myself and had my own tellhandler for erection. roof pitch was 4/12 which added about $500 to cost and building had 2 ft overhangs on sides and endwalls which added about $1,000 to cost. also included 4 ft wainscot and shed was steel gray and almond in color. also included guttering. cement was 5 1/2 inch thick with 3by 3 ft pilings under coulumns on 22 ft centers. took 70 yds concrete for floor and 12 yards for approach with 1/2 rebar in all concrete on 2 by 2 ft squares. no heat tho.
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Oilfarmer
Posted 1/5/2015 06:45 (#4288094 - in reply to #4287110)
Subject: RE: Price of a 40'x60'shop


Ravenna Ohio

Last week. 40x60, 16 at square, 1-20x14 slider, 1- walk in, 1- 12x14 overhead, concrete with wire, finished. rolled roof insulation for drips. 27k.

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GangGreen
Posted 1/5/2015 07:28 (#4288158 - in reply to #4287542)
Subject: RE: Price of a 40'x60'shop



Eastern Iowa
+1, except I would add, for cold storage, you can have a steel building for virtually the same amount as a pole building.
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BPJr
Posted 1/5/2015 08:11 (#4288253 - in reply to #4287110)
Subject: RE: Price of a 40'x60'shop


NC Ohio
I just built a 40'x72'x15'6" with a 20x14 and 10x10 overhead, also 12' roof over the walk in door for around 32,000 when you don't include all of the extras. just the cost of the building and labor.
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Pofarmer
Posted 1/5/2015 12:08 (#4288746 - in reply to #4288094)
Subject: RE: Price of a 40'x60'shop



So, that is un insulated and unlined?  Here is an opinion, take it for what it's worth.  Do not put the rolled insulation in the roof.  Birds will tear it up if the building ever sits open.  If it's closed all the time it may be O.K. 

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Oilfarmer
Posted 1/5/2015 13:02 (#4288880 - in reply to #4288746)
Subject: RE: Price of a 40'x60'shop


Ravenna Ohio

Have two others with no problem. It is 1 inch or less? Just to stop sweating.

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shorty1
Posted 1/5/2015 13:53 (#4288983 - in reply to #4288253)
Subject: RE: Price of a 40'x60'shop


We built a 48x72 20ft side wall one 24ft overhead door, radiant heat, one walk in doo,r8 windows completely insulated and completely metal lined inside,cemented has a 40ft pad outside wired well and good lighting was around $130K built by ex Menonites and couldn't ask for better job Morton and Lesters were considerably higher and they went with much closer pole setting.
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Thud
Posted 1/5/2015 18:24 (#4289589 - in reply to #4288094)
Subject: RE: Price of a 40'x60'shop


Near-north Ontario, French River
I'd be real curious as to how some of you guys can get buildings built so cheaply. 27k for a 40x60 building...... erected?? That wouldn't cover the concrete and electrical work here, let alone building the actual building. Materials are 3 times that....labour would exceed that as well....... are these bare bones barns? What about snow loads? We got three quotes before building, all were within 5-7500 of of the others, we went with the middle bid for a variety of reasons. I can't help but think if we put on that size of a building and it only cost 27k, that it would blow down if someone farted inside.
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GangGreen
Posted 1/5/2015 18:58 (#4289704 - in reply to #4289589)
Subject: RE: Price of a 40'x60'shop



Eastern Iowa
We did ours in-house, except for the concrete and overheads. Saved enough to buy a Skytrak as a bonus. 70x100 steel with a walk in, $58,000 delivered. 24x18 non-insulated overhead door on gable end plus 20x16 overhead on sidewall $8500 installed. Concrete footings, 4' wall, and half of floor $21,000 labor included. That's a steel building on a poured wall for the cost of a cheaper pole shed put up by somebody else. You'd have to add $50K just to get in the neighborhood of what Morton wanted.

Now don't get me wrong, it was a sunovabitch, and I could have been doing other things, like picking corn in early October when everyone else was. But now that it's done (except for some electric we are working on intermittently) I'm proud of the job we did.
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deerefever
Posted 1/5/2015 21:29 (#4290323 - in reply to #4288253)
Subject: RE: Price of a 40'x60'shop


Thanks everyone!! Got Morton dealer and a friend that builds steel shops getting some no.s together,should be interesting!!
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Pofarmer
Posted 1/6/2015 07:05 (#4290854 - in reply to #4288880)
Subject: RE: Price of a 40'x60'shop



For sweating it's just 1/2 inch board.
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