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farmnmn
Posted 2/28/2014 14:44 (#3722912)
Subject: 35 ft camper?


Walnut Grove, MN.

would I need a 1 ton pickup? singles or duals?

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Timd3200
Posted 2/28/2014 14:50 (#3722929 - in reply to #3722912)
Subject: RE: 35 ft camper?


SoCenIL
You are on the edge. Depends on how heavy it is. I have a 34 ft and pull it with a f 250 with 5.4 It is no problem except when there is heavy wind. Then a dually would be nice. FInd out what the weight of the camper is and figure 20 % on pin. If not going very far you can get by.
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Stormy Day
Posted 2/28/2014 14:50 (#3722930 - in reply to #3722912)
Subject: RE: 35 ft camper?


North central illinois
Depends on what you wanna do with it, the only part of mn I have been is I-90 from Albert Lea to Sioux Falls, I would say along that stretch a single wheel 3/4 ton would be plenty of pick up for the job. If you are gonna run up and down I-80 thru Wyoming, Utah or Nevada you may wanna get into the most truck you can. Engine power, braking power, and some good tires are gonna be your best friends.
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farmnmn
Posted 2/28/2014 14:53 (#3722934 - in reply to #3722930)
Subject: RE: 35 ft camper?


Walnut Grove, MN.

the camper will be a 5th wheel

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Fingers77
Posted 2/28/2014 14:54 (#3722937 - in reply to #3722912)
Subject: RE: 35 ft camper?



After towing for the last 25 years, I always tow with the largest vehicle i can. One ton dually if given a choice. I like knowing my truck will be in control of what i am towing.
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Buster 50
Posted 2/28/2014 15:00 (#3722950 - in reply to #3722929)
Subject: RE: 35 ft camper?



North West IA/western AZ
Timd3200 - 2/28/2014 13:50

You are on the edge. Depends on how heavy it is. I have a 34 ft and pull it with a f 250 with 5.4 It is no problem except when there is heavy wind. Then a dually would be nice. FInd out what the weight of the camper is and figure 20 % on pin. If not going very far you can get by.



How is your trailer layed out Tim? How many slide outs, etc. Have you pulled it in the mountains? What speed can you run on the interstate and still make 200 miles per fuel stop?
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Timd3200
Posted 2/28/2014 15:08 (#3722966 - in reply to #3722950)
Subject: RE: 35 ft camper?


SoCenIL
I have not ran in the mountains. If I tried to run in the mountains I would be seriously in trouble. I am lucky to live in the flat land of ILL. I can run 65 on the interstate with no problems. I get about 7 to 9 MPG here where I am at. My camper only weights about 8500. Has 2 slides. It is a Copper Canyon 298 5ver with bunkhouse in the back for the kids. With the 39 gallon tank and 7 mpg that is about 250 miles before I have to look for gas. If I had a choice I would have a 2wd diesel dually just for my camper. Until I have more money than I know what to do with I will get by.
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Mmaxed
Posted 2/28/2014 15:14 (#3722976 - in reply to #3722934)
Subject: RE: 35 ft camper?


I tow a 35 ft toy hauler that weighs in at 14k with a 3/4 ton with air bags. If I was towing more often or farther I would have a dually. On the other hand if it was a 5er that weighed in at 10k my F250 would be very capable for the job.
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TA63
Posted 2/28/2014 15:53 (#3723056 - in reply to #3722976)
Subject: RE: 35 ft camper?


SD
I pull a 28 foot bumper pull toy hauler behind a 3/4 ton duramax with air bags. The bags made a huge difference, but it's a lot of weight hanging off the back of a pickup. I hope to upgrade to a fifth wheel soon. A srw pickup should do the job fine for you.

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John
Posted 2/28/2014 15:55 (#3723060 - in reply to #3722912)
Subject: RE: 35 ft camper?


Somewhere in North central Iowa
We have a 34' and pull it with an F-250. No duals and it's not a problem. I have the 6.2 gas and I would not want a smaller engine.

John
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farmnmn
Posted 2/28/2014 16:07 (#3723075 - in reply to #3723060)
Subject: RE: 35 ft camper?


Walnut Grove, MN.

so a 5.4 would be out of the question?

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SnakeDriver
Posted 2/28/2014 16:16 (#3723084 - in reply to #3723075)
Subject: RE: 35 ft camper?


Campers are 90% air. You could crush that thing down to a cube that would fit in a Camry. The only (possible) problem happens when it starts getting windy.
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Timd3200
Posted 2/28/2014 17:29 (#3723178 - in reply to #3723075)
Subject: RE: 35 ft camper?


SoCenIL
A 5.4 is fine if geared correctly. Like I said I pull my 34 ft 5ver just fine with my 5.4. It has 4.10 rear end. I would just go and next time you up grade trucks make your engine choice then.
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Thumb Crop Farmer
Posted 2/28/2014 18:37 (#3723291 - in reply to #3722934)
Subject: RE: 35 ft camper?


Thumb of Michigan
1 ton, dually, diesel will handle that much better in the wind and in the mountains. Wouldnt even think of pulling a 5th wheel w/ a 5.4 v8. Pulling a 25' toy trailer is a hand full for a 5.4 V8. Can install air bags.

Edited by Thumb Crop Farmer 2/28/2014 18:39
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Thumb Crop Farmer
Posted 2/28/2014 18:39 (#3723294 - in reply to #3723075)
Subject: RE: 35 ft camper?


Thumb of Michigan
farmnmn - 2/28/2014 16:07

so a 5.4 would be out of the question?



That would be an understatement.
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caseman10
Posted 2/28/2014 18:40 (#3723295 - in reply to #3723178)
Subject: RE: 35 ft camper?


We pull a 38 ft heartland big country with a f250 5.4l and it pulls great, It has a drinking problem, but it pulls great!

Edited by caseman10 2/28/2014 18:41
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CaseIH2388
Posted 2/28/2014 19:06 (#3723353 - in reply to #3723294)
Subject: RE: 35 ft camper?


Strasburg North Dakota
Just returned from a 5400 mile trip with a 40 ft toy hauler, 18,000 pounds loaded, pulled by a Duramax 3500 single rear wheel. There are times I wished I had a dually. Problem is Can't get a Chev with crew cab short box dually. Only Ram makes one and don't know if I am ready for that. Back to your situation, your truck will handle a 35 ft 8500 pound 5r easily GVW wise. Power, I am not in the know on the 5.4 .
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young buck1
Posted 2/28/2014 19:07 (#3723355 - in reply to #3723294)
Subject: RE: 35 ft camper?


Sibley county Minesota
Not a 35 footer but my brother pulls a 24 footer and a boat with a half ton with a 5.4 on flat ground not a problem. he said next time he is getting a 3/4 ton.
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gbenkfarm
Posted 2/28/2014 19:30 (#3723406 - in reply to #3722912)
Subject: RE: 35 ft camper?



SeMN
How far and how often will you pull it? Every once in a while short distances you can probably get by with a heavy half or 3/4 ton. If you are going lots of miles and half the summer you will like a dually with a diesel, you won't feel like the camper is driving you.
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Jay in WA
Posted 2/28/2014 19:32 (#3723408 - in reply to #3723353)
Subject: RE: 35 ft camper?


Pasco WA.
Power wise how did the Duramax handle the load? I just bought a 38' toyhauler with a 15,000 lb GVW. About to order a new Duramax 3500 single rear tire. Leaning toward a double cab long box.
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pony express
Posted 2/28/2014 22:05 (#3723816 - in reply to #3722912)
Subject: RE: 35 ft camper?


Sw MN
I pull a 32 ft fifth wheel, 7500#, 1500# on the pin with my 1/2ton Dodge with a Hemi. It actually handles it better than the old 26' that weighed 500# less. I can pull it 70MPH and get 9 -10 MPG. Power isn't the issue. The nose of the trailer makes a huge difference in how they pull.

With that said would I go to California and back with it, NO. Next time I upgrade pickups it will be a 3/4, when I retire it will be a 1 ton.

It just like the guy that pulls two 650 bu wagons behind a 2wd tractor, can pull, yes, can he stop it nope.
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J. Sheehan
Posted 2/28/2014 23:46 (#3723965 - in reply to #3722912)
Subject: RE: 35 ft camper?


Sunnyside, WA
I am leaving in 2 weeks to drive to Ohio to pick up my 5th wheel bunkhouse 365 model, 42' total length that is supposed to weight 12,000 dry. Using a 2007 Chevy duramax 2500 four door short box with air bags and a programmer. Did a lot of reading and research and it should handle it fine. Will report back after driving 2000 miles back to WA state
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Rhino
Posted 3/1/2014 06:21 (#3724100 - in reply to #3723965)
Subject: RE: 35 ft camper?


Central Iowa
I pull a 37ft camper with a 2500 Duramax and air bags with no problem



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cropdude
Posted 3/1/2014 08:49 (#3724411 - in reply to #3724100)
Subject: RE: 35 ft camper?



NE SD
Do any of you use a slider in your short box trucks for pulling your fifth wheel. I have a f350 CCSB and just bought a Keystone Sprinter 5er. I am hoping I will not need the sliding hitch but if I do I might get a sidewinder pin box instead.

I was just wondering if any of you run a slider or sidewinder. If so what brand and how you like it.

Thanks
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farmnmn
Posted 3/1/2014 09:24 (#3724514 - in reply to #3724411)
Subject: RE: 35 ft camper?


Walnut Grove, MN.

the pickup I have now has a short bed and when I got a 5th wheel put in the bed I asked the same question and I was told I didn't need a slider you just cant turn as short or it will hit the cab.

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farmnmn
Posted 3/1/2014 09:26 (#3724521 - in reply to #3724514)
Subject: guys with air bags?


Walnut Grove, MN.

did you haul your camper before getting airbags? what made you decide to get the air bags? was the ride improved after getting the air bags?

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Farmer Brown
Posted 3/1/2014 09:46 (#3724580 - in reply to #3724411)
Subject: RE: 35 ft camper?


Nebraska Panhandle
I have a 2003 Dodge 3/4 ton double cab with short box. I put a B&W companion hitch in it. Pull a 2014 33 ft. Sprinter with it with no problem. You can turn short, but always need to be aware of what's going on.
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KSUFarmer
Posted 3/1/2014 11:09 (#3724764 - in reply to #3722912)
Subject: RE: 35 ft camper?



I pull a 43 foot with a 3500 diesel with duals. I don't have airbags and barely squat the truck. I wouldn't even think of pulling this without duals or with a 2500. It is right at 20,000 lbs loaded. My previous camper was a 36 foot 5th wheel and could pull it with either my 2500 single wheels or my 3500 dually easily. It was right at 14,000 lbs loaded.



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GM Guy
Posted 3/1/2014 23:09 (#3726178 - in reply to #3723408)
Subject: RE: 35 ft camper?


NW KS/ SC ID
power wise a new duramax will be more than plenty. the LML is 397 hp and 765 ft/ lb

a buddy that pulls good sized stock trailers complains his LML goes through rear tires way quicker than his previous duramaxes, claims pulling empty they get warm, he is thinking it is slipping the tires slightly.
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J. Sheehan
Posted 3/20/2014 09:22 (#3765092 - in reply to #3722912)
Subject: RE: 35 ft camper?


Sunnyside, WA
I picked up my camper innOhio and made it to Kimball, NE before I had injector troubles with my truck. When I left Ohio, there was 20-25 mph winds and it was a handful. Took it easy at 55-60 mph. Airbags at 60-70 psi.

The drive from Chicago to Minnesota on I-90 was great. From Minnesota thought Iowa and into Nebraska on I-90, I-35, and I-80 also went fine. 75-82 mph and 10.2 mph. I will find out how the Wyoming, Utah, Idaho, and Oregon mountain passes work. Power and braking is no problem. Wind seems to be the only issue.

Forest River Sandpiper 365SAQ. Called a 36.5', by total length pin to bumper is just under 42'. I have the B&W companion 12" slider, but have not needed to use it yet. 12,275 lbs dry with a 2000 lb pin weight. Wheels are far enough under that it turns nice.

Now just to get my truck fixed and get it home.........



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