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MNCORNFARMER
Posted 12/3/2013 16:18 (#3488387)
Subject: Calmer rolls are they worth the money


SE MN

Just priced out a set of Calmer BT chopper stalk rolls for our 893 at $1,149 per row x 8 rows is $9192.  Nearly twice as much as Deere so are they really worth it?  Seem to be very proud of their product.

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carlton
Posted 12/3/2013 16:32 (#3488403 - in reply to #3488387)
Subject: Re: Calmer rolls are they worth the money


northwest IL Lee Co
Yes, I put them on my 643 and really liked them. Chopped up stalks as well as anything I've seen. My uncle has a geringhoff chopping head and mine does almost as good a job at a fraction of the cost.
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MNCORNFARMER
Posted 12/3/2013 16:34 (#3488404 - in reply to #3488387)
Subject: Re: Calmer rolls are they worth the money


SE MN
So is the 1149 what everyone else is playing? Just called to get a price didn't try talking them down at all.
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combinejockey
Posted 12/3/2013 16:39 (#3488412 - in reply to #3488404)
Subject: Re: Calmer rolls are they worth the money


Not sure on price but ran a 893 with them this fall....well well worth the money compared to a chopping head...pulls easier also. At least compared to stock deere head anyway..
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4WD
Posted 12/3/2013 16:45 (#3488426 - in reply to #3488404)
Subject: Re: Calmer rolls are they worth the money


NE part of SW Iowa

Have you thought about waiting for a "farm equipment show" and they may have a special price, at those shows.

Isn't Lincoln, Nebr. show something like the DEC 10-12 (Nebraska Power Farming Show)

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MNCORNFARMER
Posted 12/3/2013 16:52 (#3488435 - in reply to #3488387)
Subject: Re: Calmer rolls are they worth the money


SE MN
I'm planing on working on the head sometime the next month or so and am going to have it half way apart for other things. I hate to take it apart twice. There is the Iowa farm power show in Feb. I think and I am sure they would be there. Maybe I should wait. Guess I'm cheap but that's more than I was planning on spending. That's why I'm asking if they are worth it.
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Dave NWIL
Posted 12/3/2013 16:58 (#3488441 - in reply to #3488387)
Subject: RE: Calmer rolls are they worth the money


Really like the job they do. 2nd year running them. Seem to wear well.
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Ed Winkle
Posted 12/3/2013 17:04 (#3488454 - in reply to #3488403)
Subject: Re: Calmer rolls are they worth the money


Martinsville, Ohio
I don't own them but have a friend who does, sounds like your experience on a 643.

Ed
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silverluv75
Posted 12/3/2013 17:05 (#3488460 - in reply to #3488454)
Subject: Re: Calmer rolls are they worth the money


SE North Dakota
Do they offer them for gleaner hugger heads?
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marksj
Posted 12/3/2013 17:34 (#3488515 - in reply to #3488387)
Subject: Re: Calmer rolls are they worth the money


NW Ill
Anyone price these?
http://www.oxbocorp.com/Products/KnifeRolls.aspx
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cropdude
Posted 12/3/2013 17:47 (#3488531 - in reply to #3488387)
Subject: Re: Calmer rolls are they worth the money



NE SD
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Ed Winkle
Posted 12/3/2013 17:50 (#3488536 - in reply to #3488460)
Subject: Not that I am aware of


Martinsville, Ohio

http://www.calmercornheads.com/trashReduction.htm

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carlton
Posted 12/3/2013 17:51 (#3488541 - in reply to #3488404)
Subject: Re: Calmer rolls are they worth the money


northwest IL Lee Co
Make sure you get the stripper plates too. The farm show price is 5 percent off or something close to that. Bought mine at the Dekalb show last year.
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HMAN
Posted 12/3/2013 17:53 (#3488548 - in reply to #3488460)
Subject: Re: Calmer rolls are they worth the money



A couple years ago they did not. We have a R72 and had a agco 3000 head that we were not pleased with. We bought a JD 843 and put all calmer parts on it and we are very pleased. We did have to spend a little to get it to fit our R72.
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farmboy99
Posted 12/3/2013 18:01 (#3488561 - in reply to #3488404)
Subject: Re: Calmer rolls are they worth the money


SE South Dakota
December of 2012 I purchased the complete kit from Calmer. New top and bottom sprockets for the gathering chains, new gathering chains, Calmer deck plates, BT chopper stalk rolls for a 8 row JD 893. Wrote a check for $10,732.28 A very good investment, in my opinion.

They way I fiquired it a new JD 608 Stalkmaster would cost about $10,000 per row. I updated my good corn head for $1341.53 a row, for the parts. I had about 35 hours of my own labor to install everything. They would both do a good job chopping the stalks.

If you do the Calmer converson while you have the stalk rolls off put new seals in the gearboxes, the shaft the rolls are on.

I do not know what the price would have been just for the rolls.

You will get a far, far better chop with these rolls over the JD knife rolls.

I would guess if they offer a "farm show discount" you could likely get that if you asked. I think??? I did last year.

Jim J

Edited by farmboy99 12/3/2013 18:05
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MNCORNFARMER
Posted 12/3/2013 18:06 (#3488569 - in reply to #3488387)
Subject: Re: Calmer rolls are they worth the money


SE MN
Why do I need the stripper plate too? There's nothing wrong with the ones I have.
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alnciowa
Posted 12/3/2013 18:14 (#3488583 - in reply to #3488387)
Subject: RE: Calmer rolls are they worth the money


nw/nc iowa
I agree they are terribly expensive and when I need new ones I will check to see what Oxbo offer. I have run my two years and I like them. Plenty good for COB rotation but about half the time we either run a disc or cutter across the field for COC. Am I correct in saying that a chopping corn head is only part of the cost, you need another 50 to 100 hp to pull it, so you have to buy an oversize combine, that is a question.??
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farmerBill
Posted 12/3/2013 18:16 (#3488586 - in reply to #3488387)
Subject: Re: Calmer rolls are they worth the money


North Central Indiana
Bought the kit for our 693 at Louisville in 2012. Have now ran them two years. Would do it all over again. The plates, sprockets and chains along with the rolls are included with the kit. I also added hydraulic deck plate control at the same time. Also do change the seals out while you have the rolls off as someone above suggested.
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DLR005
Posted 12/3/2013 18:19 (#3488594 - in reply to #3488569)
Subject: Re: Calmer rolls are they worth the money


SESD
we have had them for two years now and we think we got more shelling in the rows...... checked a lot behind the head and find more shelled corn than should be there!!!!!! we got their deck plated and we think the curve down lip doesn't hold kernels of corn! what head speed do you guys that like them run????
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OlsonKrist
Posted 12/3/2013 18:26 (#3488616 - in reply to #3488387)
Subject: RE: Calmer rolls are they worth the money


nw MN
Deere knife rolls are about the same money if you don't already have their knife rolls, or if your spirals are worn out. You would need the barrel as well as blades, plus 30$/ row of fasteners. Just new blades for the Deere rolls were right around $630/ row when I checked this year.

Not saying that Calmer isn't overpriced, just that they have some justification for asking $1100/ row when compared to the total cost of the Deere setup, since you get a "complete" stalk roll for that price.

I think the Clarke Case IH conversion would be the clear way to go. $865/ row for everything, and to replace the blades it is only $100/ row.
http://www.clarkemachine.com/Accessories.htm

Edited by OlsonKrist 12/3/2013 18:39
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pointrow
Posted 12/3/2013 18:49 (#3488687 - in reply to #3488387)
Subject: Re: Calmer rolls are they worth the money



Central Il Morton
I have the knife rolls from Calmer. They do a good job but wonder how long they will last. At least with the Clark you can replace the knives when worn.
good luck
pointrow
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1586
Posted 12/3/2013 19:00 (#3488722 - in reply to #3488387)
Subject: Re: Calmer rolls are they worth the money


I just listed a 2006 893 in the classifieds. Has the Calmer deck plates and slow down kit with Pixall rolls.

http://talk.newagtalk.com/classifieds/Classified.aspx?id=1952
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Von WC Ohio
Posted 12/3/2013 19:03 (#3488731 - in reply to #3488387)
Subject: RE: Calmer rolls are they worth the money



I'm still pretty happy with JD knife rolls on a 693 and NDY stompers on all rows.

I will stipulate I run at slower ground speeds and higher roll speed and variety and plant and stalk conditions do have some impact. The drier they are the better they do at shredding. 

Your mileage of course may vary.





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lovetoride650
Posted 12/3/2013 19:25 (#3488797 - in reply to #3488387)
Subject: Re: Calmer rolls are they worth the money


USA&Belize
My one neighbor ran there head this fall,I am real impressed with the way the stalks are rotting.
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Silver Shoes
Posted 12/3/2013 19:54 (#3488894 - in reply to #3488460)
Subject: Re: Calmer rolls are they worth the money


Seneca Kansas 66538
You can do the same thing on your hugger with a torch. Brother did it and definitely chops up the stalks well. I can get a picture sometime for you. Want to make sure you cut the correct edge off the snapping roll.
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kinzeman
Posted 12/3/2013 20:00 (#3488913 - in reply to #3488387)
Subject: RE: Calmer rolls are they worth the money



West Union IA

I would check into the clarks also, I put them on mine 4 years ago and really happy with them. Cuts them just like CIH...

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hobby95
Posted 12/3/2013 20:30 (#3489006 - in reply to #3488387)
Subject: Re: Calmer rolls are they worth the money


SW MINNESOTA
Has anyone put the calmer rolls on a 2200 series case ih head?
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deereboy8400
Posted 12/3/2013 20:40 (#3489043 - in reply to #3488616)
Subject: RE: Calmer rolls are they worth the money



East Central Indiana
OlsonKrist - 12/3/2013 18:26I think the Clarke Case IH conversion would be the clear way to go. $865/ row for everything, and to replace the blades it is only $100/ row.
http://www.clarkemachine.com/Accessories.htm


Agreed. Very, very pleased with our Clarke rolls on an 893. We weren't impressed the older Calmer rolls (before the BT Crushers came out) so we went with clarke and haven't looked back!

Edited by deereboy8400 12/3/2013 20:41
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scmn_06
Posted 12/3/2013 21:23 (#3489211 - in reply to #3488387)
Subject: RE: Calmer rolls are they worth the money


Blue Earth, MN
Had them on a 1293...We liked them. We then had some troubles with our head and had to rent a 608C....that head is junk.

We will be running our 1293 again.
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jdbob8100
Posted 12/3/2013 21:26 (#3489232 - in reply to #3489006)
Subject: Re: Calmer rolls are they worth the money


ND
Have a 643 converted to a 8r22, put Calmers on two outside rows this year & really liked them.. Chopped into 2" pieces. The open windows or the slots put the stalks into the very middle of the Calmers, what was left was a stalk about 24" high, better on tires. Could be less if cornhead was carried lower.
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farmcorn
Posted 12/4/2013 08:49 (#3490086 - in reply to #3488387)
Subject: RE: Calmer rolls are they worth the money


NCIL
We put them on a 1293 w/slow down kit, did a very nice job on stalks. Still did good when stalks got dry. My only complaint is wear on the knives in the revolving window area, the rest of the roll looks like new. I haven't spoken to Marion yet, but they need something done with them.
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redandblackpower
Posted 9/1/2016 22:53 (#5504470 - in reply to #3488894)
Subject: Re: Calmer rolls are they worth the money


This is a long shot, but do you have pictures or dimensions on what was torched off? Looking at cutting corn soon and someone said torching the rolls helped. Thanks.
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