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sodboy
Posted 5/19/2013 10:51 (#3105174)
Subject: Chopping head or disk


Corn thrash is really getting to be a problem in corn bean rotation. We like to no till beans in standing stalks, works for us. The trash the next year is really piling up. Would I be more happy with a chopping head or just disk in the fall. Thanks
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cornerpost
Posted 5/19/2013 10:56 (#3105180 - in reply to #3105174)
Subject: Re: Chopping head or disk


SE MN Still in Pothole Country
Assume you mean corn trash when planting in bean stubble? Is it piling up behing the field cultivator? More info please. Have similar situation and end up working stubble twice if heaps are a problem. Some bean varieties worse than others. Have wondered if a field finisher with a gang of disk blades up front would be the answer.
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Farmwithjunk
Posted 5/19/2013 11:04 (#3105188 - in reply to #3105174)
Subject: RE: Chopping head or disk


Bullitt County Kentucky
1 vote for chopping corn head. No tillage tools used here since 1988. Don't miss 'em one bit.
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deere4760
Posted 5/19/2013 11:09 (#3105195 - in reply to #3105188)
Subject: Re: Chopping head or disk


Renville County, MN
Chopping head and then run across with a Salford or some sort of vertical tillage in the fall. Not much residue left in spring. Have run field cultivator in this in the spring with no problems. Run the Salford across bean stubble in the fall and it works up nice in the spring, no piles.
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Tim in WI
Posted 5/19/2013 12:51 (#3105369 - in reply to #3105188)
Subject: RE: Chopping head or disk



Embarrass WI
Another vote for a chopping head. I bought a Geringhoff Rota-disc head last year, and it does more good than a tillage pass for breaking stalks down and doesn't leave the ground rough.

One field we did one pass with a FC this spring and planted. Other sand ground fields were notilled to beans.
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garvo
Posted 5/19/2013 11:27 (#3105224 - in reply to #3105174)
Subject: Re: Chopping head or disk


western iowa,by Denison
yes spend a lot of money or go to the oldest john deere head you can fine without stalk rolls and leave the stocks as long as possiable and your problem will be solved a old 643 with worn rolls that looks like a old picker harvested it is best-no trash and makes no-till work-must be careful neighbors will think you are a poor farmer!
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sodboy
Posted 5/19/2013 11:54 (#3105273 - in reply to #3105224)
Subject: Re: Chopping head or disk


That's what I have is a 843 the trash is not a problem for the beans it's the next years bean stubble that has a pile of Stalks that haven't decomposed yet. I think we have stalks that are 3 to 5 years old just laying there. Chisel and dig bean ground the trash doesn't affect that just looks like hell.
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snowden
Posted 5/19/2013 15:25 (#3105609 - in reply to #3105273)
Subject: Re: Chopping head or disk


michigan
we dont no till but the only problem i could see with a chopping head is it would leave a mat of corn stalks between the rows and not dry out in the spring as fast most guys around us that notill in corn stalks run heads with standard rolls instead of knife rolls and leave the stalks long as possible so the centers dry out better it almost looks like they ran a old picker after harvest the stalks are so long but some like it this way. good luck
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eyeballit
Posted 5/19/2013 18:21 (#3105853 - in reply to #3105174)
Subject: Re: Chopping head or disk


ne iowa
by chopping stalks you will lose the carbon from them, you could benefit by working them in
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farmerBill
Posted 5/19/2013 19:05 (#3105937 - in reply to #3105853)
Subject: Re: Chopping head or disk


North Central Indiana
Help me understand. Wouldn't chopping them make the conversion to carbon quicker?
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farmerBill
Posted 5/19/2013 18:57 (#3105919 - in reply to #3105174)
Subject: RE: Chopping head or disk


North Central Indiana
Rebuilt out 693 with Calmer choppers last year. Just one field to go and not problems with it being matted over. This picture right after harvest. Much decomposition over the winter.

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eyeballit
Posted 5/19/2013 20:26 (#3106141 - in reply to #3105174)
Subject: Re: Chopping head or disk


ne iowa
if it just sits on top of the ground it gets lost to the atmosphere, especially if its in small broken up pieces.
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