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Jay NE Ohio
Posted 8/11/2012 08:36 (#2533070)
Subject: replace clutch brake w/o pulling transmission?



northeastern Ohio

What is the easiest way to remove a one piece clutch brake (2000 Freightliner Century w/ 10 speed)?  I picked up a Halldex two piece and installation of it looks easy.  I've heard of guys using a torch, but there is a LOT of grease up in there (it looks like the previous owner greased the throwout bearing every day)!  I've also heard of using an air chisel.  Any advice?

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jnlarson
Posted 8/11/2012 08:59 (#2533112 - in reply to #2533070)
Subject: RE: replace clutch brake w/o pulling transmission?


NE MT		I have used a torch. Messy job. It has been a while, but I think used a pressure washer to clean some of the grease out.
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J,ReinkeFarms
Posted 8/11/2012 09:03 (#2533125 - in reply to #2533070)
Subject: Re: replace clutch brake w/o pulling transmission?


Have had luck with a small die grinder like a dremmel and grinding my way through. Takes a long time though. Couldn't fit the cut off one up in there.
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Offroadnt
Posted 8/11/2012 09:17 (#2533164 - in reply to #2533070)
Subject: Re: replace clutch brake w/o pulling transmission?


Southern Alberta Canada		I've torched about fifty out, it's messy but it save allot of time and trouble. They are hardened and you can hardly nick them with a chisel, I didn't think you could get a dremmel up there, that's interesting. I usually cut through most of the way with a torch on both sides then use an air chisel to split it.
Good luck :-)
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mr8850
Posted 8/11/2012 09:31 (#2533191 - in reply to #2533070)
Subject: Re: replace clutch brake w/o pulling transmission?


Minot ND		we torched one and burned the trans seal and ended up pulling the trans and replacing the seal
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Thud
Posted 8/11/2012 12:32 (#2533471 - in reply to #2533191)
Subject: Re: replace clutch brake w/o pulling transmission?


Near-north Ontario, French River		I've had two replaced over the years , both in t-800. Both times mechanic just used a torch. Like others have said its messy, as melting grease drips out the bottom. Wear heavy gloves,long sleeves and a face shield. If you are worried about starting a fire, just have a garden hose handy.
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tommyw-5088
Posted 8/11/2012 13:38 (#2533561 - in reply to #2533471)
Subject: Re: replace clutch brake w/o pulling transmission?


south Texas , York Rife Freemason		you can but its a bad job ,easy to get burned with dripping grease .

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Offroadnt
Posted 8/11/2012 14:31 (#2533651 - in reply to #2533070)
Subject: Re: replace clutch brake w/o pulling transmission?


Southern Alberta Canada		Eaton transmissions don't have a front seal, just reverse threads. Not sure about others though.
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JK SCLA
Posted 8/11/2012 14:55 (#2533679 - in reply to #2533070)
Subject: Re: replace clutch brake w/o pulling transmission?


Not bad, just a few scars for a while. Cover your face. Make sure your driver knows how to drive with a clutch brake
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clark90
Posted 8/11/2012 16:42 (#2533802 - in reply to #2533679)
Subject: Re: replace clutch brake w/o pulling transmission?



Ks		Preach it JK, my number one peave is tearing up a clutch brake. every one around here gets tired of hearing it but all of our brakes work.
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flyinfarmer
Posted 8/11/2012 23:42 (#2534386 - in reply to #2533679)
Subject: Re: replace clutch brake w/o pulling transmission?



NE Iowa		What is the right way to drive with a clutch brake? Do all truck transmissions (9, 10, 13 speeds, etc) have them? Must not be doing anything too wrong, as we haven't failed one in 10 yrs on same truck, but may be changing trucks, soon.
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milofarmer1
Posted 8/12/2012 17:52 (#2535604 - in reply to #2534386)
Subject: Re: replace clutch brake w/o pulling transmission?



Texas/New Mexico Stateline
flyinfarmer - 8/11/2012 22:42

What is the right way to drive with a clutch brake? Do all truck transmissions (9, 10, 13 speeds, etc) have them? Must not be doing anything too wrong, as we haven't failed one in 10 yrs on same truck, but may be changing trucks, soon.


Don't push the clutch pedal all the way to the floor when the truck is moving in gear, ever. That goes for when you are stopped at an intersection with it in gear too. What happens is say the truck wants to roll and the transmission is in gear it will spin the transmission input shaft. If you have the clutch pedal all the way down that will put a huge amount of torque on the clutch brake and release bearing and will ruin it after a while.

So, only time to push the pedal all the way down is when you are completely stopped, going from neutral to 1st gear. Once you are in gear rolling or the truck is trying to roll (on a slope) ease up and let the pedal up an inch or two. Should last the life of the clutch if used properly.

This goes for the old mechanical clutch Verstatiles and Steigers too.

Edited by milofarmer1 8/12/2012 17:53
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Indianajones
Posted 8/11/2012 15:45 (#2533722 - in reply to #2533070)
Subject: RE: replace clutch brake w/o pulling transmission?



My Ford L9000 was not working right and stopped at a local HD shop to inquire about it. Owner said he would put one in for about $40 plus the part.
For $40 I would not even roll under the truck. May be worth checking what someone would do it for.
INDY
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hillfarmer
Posted 8/11/2012 18:37 (#2533908 - in reply to #2533722)
Subject: RE: replace clutch brake w/o pulling transmission?



And you got stuck with putting on in your 895 the "hard" way !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Indianajones
Posted 8/11/2012 19:00 (#2533938 - in reply to #2533908)
Subject: RE: replace clutch brake w/o pulling transmission?



If I could have gotten that done for $40 I would of let them do IT also. LOL
INDY
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scott nelsen
Posted 8/11/2012 19:05 (#2533944 - in reply to #2533070)
Subject: Re: replace clutch brake w/o pulling transmission?


Leeds, North Dakota		http://www.pipelinesupply.com/moreinfo.cfm?Product_ID=453105580&CFI... fast and easy, Scott.
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