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seagram
Posted 2/4/2012 13:33 (#2205375)
Subject: will a jd 148 loader fit a jd 4520?


ne iowa
Son has found a decent running 4520 for blowing snow and asked me if his 148 loader would fit? I said I think so (narrow frame?). I think they had jerky pto, anything else.....
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RickB
Posted 2/4/2012 13:44 (#2205403 - in reply to #2205375)
Subject: RE: will a jd 148 loader fit a jd 4520?



Lincoln County. NC
I'm gonna say I'm pretty certain it won't fit. And without question with one false move a 4520 would turn a 148 loader into a second hood ornament if it did happen to fit.
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ahay68979
Posted 2/4/2012 13:49 (#2205416 - in reply to #2205403)
Subject: RE: will a jd 148 loader fit a jd 4520?


Saronville NE
Neighbor used to have a 4620 with a 158 ldr, so it should work. Make good loader tractors cause of heavy frontend, dont break the frontend up all the time moving bales and such.
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RickB
Posted 2/4/2012 14:08 (#2205455 - in reply to #2205416)
Subject: RE: will a jd 148 loader fit a jd 4520?



Lincoln County. NC
I was thinking the 168 was for the large frame tractors, but I'll defer on this. Surely if a 158 fits a 4620 then a 148 will fit a 4520.
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seagram
Posted 2/4/2012 14:10 (#2205463 - in reply to #2205416)
Subject: Re: will a jd 148 loader fit a jd 4520?


ne iowa
He just has 10 cows and needs to feed a few bales over rough ground. I think 148 will fit until someone says otherwise. thanks
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Chet Z
Posted 2/4/2012 14:25 (#2205493 - in reply to #2205455)
Subject: Re: will a jd 148 loader fit a jd 4520?


Merrick County, Ne
A 4520 is the same size frame as a 4320 I believe so then the 148 should work.
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jw farms
Posted 2/4/2012 14:33 (#2205506 - in reply to #2205463)
Subject: Re: will a jd 148 loader fit a jd 4520?


acording to to my owners manual for 148 and 158 loaders it wont work 4320 is largest 20 series the 148 fits 4520 and 4620 need the 158 loader i had the same idea about a week ago
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seagram
Posted 2/4/2012 15:22 (#2205587 - in reply to #2205506)
Subject: Re: will a jd 148 loader fit a jd 4520?


ne iowa
can the 148 be modified to fit 4520?
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Gerald J.
Posted 2/4/2012 15:52 (#2205634 - in reply to #2205587)
Subject: Re: will a jd 148 loader fit a jd 4520?



The 158 and 148 are the same width, the 158 is longer. More reach. 15" longer booms. 33" more ground clearance with the bucket dumped. The 158 is 420 pounds heavier than the 148 and has 1100 pounds more breakway and 700 pounds more lift capacity. 1760 vs 1340 (72" vs 60" bucket), 5800 vs 4700, and 3800 vs 3100. The specifications page clearly says: "Mount 148 Loader on John Deere 2520, 3020, 4000, 4020, 4020, 4230, 4320, and 4430 Tractors." "Mount 158 loader on John Deere 4000, 4020, 4230, 4430, 4520, 4620, and 4630 Tractors." The fact either fits a 4020 says width is not the problem but length of tractor probably is a problem along with the 158 is heavier enough to endanger the stock 4020 and smaller tractor front end.

I have two versions of the manual, that I could be persuaded to sell.

Gerald J.
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TD15
Posted 2/4/2012 16:43 (#2205725 - in reply to #2205634)
Subject: Re: will a jd 148 loader fit a jd 4520?


I would think that frame of the 4520 is longer and the 148 booms are shorter, the cross pipe on the loader boom might hit the front of the hood
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plowboy
Posted 2/4/2012 17:08 (#2205769 - in reply to #2205375)
Subject: Re: will a jd 148 loader fit a jd 4520?



Brazilton KS
It will physically fit, the width of the frame is the same on everything from a 2510 to a 4630 (and up to 4960, but there are body clearance issues on the 4640 and up which require the 168 for bodywork clearance) you just have to mount the loader relative to the front of the tractor.

The problem is that the tractor will turn the 148 into a pretzel if you use even a portion of it's tractive ability.
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xjdtech
Posted 2/4/2012 17:10 (#2205773 - in reply to #2205725)
Subject: Re: will a jd 148 loader fit a jd 4520?


south central nebraska
I have never seen a 148 mounted on a 4520, the frame width is not the concern, but like Thomas says,the cross pipe hitting the hood. I would certainly do some measuring from the frame to the top of the hood and compare to a 4320 or a 4020
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plowboy
Posted 2/4/2012 17:17 (#2205784 - in reply to #2205725)
Subject: Re: will a jd 148 loader fit a jd 4520?



Brazilton KS

Loader brakets wrap around the front of the nose, not the back...the "extra" length will end up between the loader masts and the rear axle, not between the nose and the masts.

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plowboy
Posted 2/4/2012 17:19 (#2205791 - in reply to #2205773)
Subject: Re: will a jd 148 loader fit a jd 4520?



Brazilton KS

Does a 148 have a brace over the hood?  We have a swartz loader that does, but I thought that was just an aftermarket shortline will-fit thing.  I didn't remember 148 or 158 having anything above the hood.

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xjdtech
Posted 2/4/2012 17:25 (#2205800 - in reply to #2205791)
Subject: Re: will a jd 148 loader fit a jd 4520?


south central nebraska
no they don't have anything over the hood, but wasn't sure about the distance between the masts and the cross tube either
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RickB
Posted 2/4/2012 17:29 (#2205807 - in reply to #2205769)
Subject: Re: will a jd 148 loader fit a jd 4520?



Lincoln County. NC
plowboy - 2/4/2012 17:08

It will physically fit, the width of the frame is the same on everything from a 2510 to a 4630 (and up to 4960, but there are body clearance issues on the 4640 and up which require the 168 for bodywork clearance) you just have to mount the loader relative to the front of the tractor.

The problem is that the tractor will turn the 148 into a pretzel if you use even a portion of it's tractive ability.


This is exactly what my thinking was, top to bottom. Except I was thinking the 4520/4620 had significantly wider hood/fuel tank than the frame rail width. Apparently not. Having owned a 4010 with a 148 and a 4020 with a 158, I'm having a hard time figuring how one would physically fit a given tractor and the other not.
I don't have the advantage of a manual in front of me, however.
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TD15
Posted 2/4/2012 17:47 (#2205831 - in reply to #2205784)
Subject: Re: will a jd 148 loader fit a jd 4520?


Thats true, I didn't consider that when I posted.
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plowboy
Posted 2/4/2012 18:45 (#2205942 - in reply to #2205807)
Subject: Re: will a jd 148 loader fit a jd 4520?



Brazilton KS

Manual is going to say it won't work. 

I don't know for sure about the width of the sheetmetal on a 4520-4620  I know a 4630 is no wider then anything else. 

I am almost positive neighbors bolted their 158 onto their 148 brackets when they put the 158 on their 3010, so I'm thinking there is no width issue.  The 158 is listed to fit the 4520

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loran
Posted 2/4/2012 18:52 (#2205952 - in reply to #2205942)
Subject: Re: will a jd 148 loader fit a jd 4520?


West Union, IOWA FLOLO Farm 52175
According to parts....the main difference on all is the length of the side rails (148-168). And 45-46s have more bolts.....

Hope the link works, other wise it'll just take you to parts..

http://jdpc.deere.com/jdpc/servlet/com.deere.u90490.partscatalog.vi...
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RickB
Posted 2/4/2012 19:03 (#2205976 - in reply to #2205952)
Subject: Re: will a jd 148 loader fit a jd 4520?



Lincoln County. NC
loran - 2/4/2012 18:52

According to parts....the main difference on all is the length of the side rails (148-168). And 45-46s have more bolts.....

Hope the link works, other wise it'll just take you to parts..

http://jdpc.deere.com/jdpc/servlet/com.deere.u90490.partscatalog.vi...

Well differing side frame lengths would explain it. I guess I never noticed the difference between the mounts on my own 148 and 158 unless they happened to be 148 mounts that came with the used 158 when I bought it. Of course my auction was 20 years ago next month....................

Edited by RickB 2/4/2012 19:05
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John SD
Posted 2/4/2012 19:06 (#2205980 - in reply to #2205634)
Subject: Re: will a jd 148 loader fit a jd 4520?



What Gerald said. 148 can stack bales 2 high. 158 has longer reach and can stack 3 high. That's the practical difference. 148 should be easier on front end than 158 because it keeps weight closer to front of tractor.
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hillrunner
Posted 2/4/2012 19:40 (#2206039 - in reply to #2205375)
Subject: Re: will a jd 148 loader fit a jd 4520?


We used to have a 148 on a 4630. It fit fine but didn't have much lift.
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fairviewfarmer
Posted 2/4/2012 21:07 (#2206233 - in reply to #2205493)
Subject: Re: will a jd 148 loader fit a jd 4520?


4520 and 4620 were same frame. 4320 is slighly smaller frame and has light front end. A 148 as it came from the factory will not fit a 4520.
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Gerald J.
Posted 2/4/2012 22:38 (#2206385 - in reply to #2205791)
Subject: Brace goes under the engine. NT



Gerald J.
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seagram
Posted 2/5/2012 00:01 (#2206503 - in reply to #2206039)
Subject: Re: will a jd 148 loader fit a jd 4520?


ne iowa
thanks everyone. go cyclones and good night!
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Binboy
Posted 2/5/2012 06:32 (#2206647 - in reply to #2205375)
Subject: RE: will a jd 148 loader fit a jd 4520?


I have a nice 158 thatcame on tractor I bought, would sell and it's in nice shape.
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Cedarcreek
Posted 2/5/2012 21:10 (#2208247 - in reply to #2205769)
Subject: Re: will a jd 148 loader fit a jd 4520?


Eastern Montana
I had 4520 and have seen 158 on one. It's pretty tight clearance between the sheet metal and the loader arms.
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ETu
Posted 12/1/2012 20:49 (#2727526 - in reply to #2205634)
Subject: Re: will a jd 148 loader fit a jd 4520?


Tennille, GA
Gerald J do you still have an extra manual for a 148 loader?

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NDboots
Posted 3/11/2013 17:59 (#2958114 - in reply to #2206647)
Subject: RE: will a jd 148 loader fit a jd 4520?


Binboy, do you still have the 158 for sale? What width bucket? Location?

Edited by NDboots 3/12/2013 09:51
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