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Manitoba | my seemingly never ending search for a larger 4wd tractor that fits our farm and price range has me looking at some Case IH 9280's as well as some Ford Versatile 976's. Which would you buy if condition, hours were comparable? Should one be worth more than the other? Both have the same 855 cummins motor right? your opinion is appreciated, this is new equipment territory for me. |
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CND | 9280. We have a 976 and its a nice tractor but the 9280 would have a better dealer network most likely. |
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Embarrass WI | I have a 9270. Shortly after I got it-about 5 years ago-it had a hydraulic pump fail. Went to the CIH dealer to order a pump, the parts guy told me 'no longer available'. A 10 year old tractor and they didn't have parts. Luckily, I knew about Big Tractor Parts, called there and they were able to fix me up.
So, don't use parts availability for decision making. CIH/CNH do not support the Steigers. They are good tractors-mine is not leaving anytime soon- but you are on your own for parts. |
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| wonder how many $ you saved !! |
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michigan | both are nice tractors the 976 would be a good tractor if you have a good dealer network in your area that is our only problem we have to go 100 miles for parts. the 9280 is a excellent tractor also but if the power shift trans goes out it gets real expensive. i would think the versy should be a little cheaper on price than the 9280 but condition means alot. we have run both and i dont think you could go wrong with either one i would say go were you can get service and parts best if you have good service for both tractors in your area it would depend on which one is in best shape and best deal. good luck on finding a tractor |
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Regina/ 14 miles South of Moose Jaw Saskatchewan | Hi Tim:
I wonder if there's an issue with your dealer/parts dept.... Only reason I mention is we run a 1972 Cougar I, 1974 ST 270 and a 9150 - local Case IH has been able to source pretty well everything on all 3 tractors. (spool rebuild kits, brake parts - hydraulic pumps, etc.) - On the on line parts they usually indicate the change up numbers if a particular part isn't available...
....For what its worth...
Doug W. |
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NE Alberta | If the 9280 has a powershift it would be worth MUCH more in this area than a 976 (even if the 976 also had a powershift). The 9280 would be an easy first choice for me even if it was more money, although the 976 were good enough tractors. The sad lack of factory Case IH support for their exellent older tractors mentioned previously is true, and I don't believe the "bean counters" at Case realize the damage it does to their reputation (and sales). The powershift in the 9280 is a much more reliable trans than the manual (not what you would expect) and even though it is costly to repair, the manual (24 spd) in these tractors is just as expensive to repair and repairs are much more scarce for them. Good luck. |
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central alberta | We have a 9270 also, and I would bet dollars to doughnuts I could get a hydro pump from the dealer without a problem, I was a little surprised by Tim's experience. The 9280 is a much heavier tractor, will put the HP to the ground a little better. especially if your pulling a larger implement. Don't get me wrong the 976 would be a good tractor also, we have an older versatile and it's a great tractor. |
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Embarrass WI | I'll take that bet. Don't know if Tim Horton's doughnuts would work to pay it off.....
I was really surprised when he told me that, too. I was prepared for it being overpriced and not in stock, but not "We don't have any and won't be getting any." He did a search at other dealers, nobody had one on the shelf. I don't think it was the parts guy or store, normally they are pretty good-don't stock everything, but do their job and get it quickly and correctly. He had a part number, but that was a dead end-not available and not updated.
For grins, go to your dealer and see if they have the hyd pump-there are 3, IIRC. This one was on the front of the drop box, I can't remember if it was the upper or lower one-I think upper. Maybe Case has them now...I would be interested in knowing.
It was unsettling-for about a 1/2 a day I thought I had a tractor that I was never going to be able to use without serious engineering modifications. Big Tractor Parts didn't have one right a way either, he had to call back after doing some searching, then it was drop shipped from somewhere else. Worked out in the end. |
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central alberta | Ya, still really surprised they didn't and couldn't get one. Can you imagine how many 9270/80 tractors there are in North America alone!! ALOT I might call my neighborhood case dealer and ask is it's possible to ever get one if needed, be interesting to know and like you, maybe surprised to know the answer. |
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Southeast North Dakota | We've had a 9280 on our farm and liked it, but our Versatiles have kicked it's A$$ in uptime! You simply can't beat them for reliability. We've weighted our Versatiles down to 100-105 lbs per horsepower and can pull anything a Steiger will and the drivelines hold up perfectly. This is what I've seen on my farm. |
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central alberta | Versatile Farmer, which versatiles do you have, the older series or newer ones? We have an 835 and it has been a great tractor, and I can't complain about our 9270 it has been awesome also. I literally in the ten years weve had the Case, we haven't been broke down yet for anything. The 835 in the 25 years weve had it, weve only had it down once for a new water pump, that's it....great tractors....thats why we still have them. |
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Southeast North Dakota | Every Versatile listed in my signature is still on the farm. One of the two 900's has been retired but it's still there. We farm very widespread and use all the rest of them. |
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central alberta | Versatile Farmer, you must farm a fair number of acres to use that many 4wd's....thats awesome your still using them all, just goes to show how reliable those old versy's are.... |
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Southeast North Dakota | I probably have a couple more than I need, but I look at it another way. I've noticed since Titan Machinery has gotten as large as it has there aren't near as many used 4wds on the lots anymore. That means if you have a break-down you can't rent a tractor from the dealer like you used to, they aren't there anymore! I feel these older Versatiles in the $15,000-$25,000 price bracket are pretty cheap insurance to have around. JMHO. |
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| Versatile Farmer - 7/17/2011 22:07
I probably have a couple more than I need, but I look at it another way. I've noticed since Titan Machinery has gotten as large as it has there aren't near as many used 4wds on the lots anymore. That means if you have a break-down you can't rent a tractor from the dealer like you used to, they aren't there anymore! I feel these older Versatiles in the $15,000-$25,000 price bracket are pretty cheap insurance to have around. JMHO.
maybe we need a "community" set of spares |
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Case IH 9280 vs Ford Versatile 976
