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ClusterFarm
Posted 1/28/2024 08:10 (#10597160)
Subject: Mud got you down- a little chopper porn on a gray day…


CNY
My neighbors built this in the 80’s, we had a bunch of wet falls and it was before SP choppers were very common. 2 Hesston I think choppers. Pulled a side dump Richardton wagon behind, they blew into that. They said hardest part was figuring out the shaft off the front of the engine and getting everything turning right in the drop box. It worked great, they ended up doing a lot of custom work for others with it

They were 3 brothers who came from CT, bought a farm up here in the late 70’s early 80’s when they were in their early 20’s. One of them bought a old dozer and started pushing out hedgerows, ended up turning it into a successful excavation/tile/dirt work business. The other 2 slowly grew the farm, the next generation is milking 1500 now. One of the brothers passed, they put the choppers back on for his celebration of life. Good guys, good neighbors, always tinkering with stuff, trying to make it better



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Midwestfeeder
Posted 1/28/2024 08:21 (#10597183 - in reply to #10597160)
Subject: RE: Mud got you down- a little chopper porn on a gray day…


Eastern SD
Now that is a unique unit!
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Mitchco
Posted 1/28/2024 08:47 (#10597225 - in reply to #10597160)
Subject: RE: Mud got you down- a little chopper porn on a gray day…


SW OH
That's good ole farmer ingenuity there.

Mitchco
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gorillaguy
Posted 1/28/2024 09:02 (#10597250 - in reply to #10597160)
Subject: RE: Mud got you down- a little chopper porn on a gray day…



Gregory SD
VERY COOL!!
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t rock
Posted 1/28/2024 10:24 (#10597365 - in reply to #10597160)
Subject: RE: Mud got you down- a little chopper porn on a gray day…


Tablerock Ranch eastern Wa
Very cool thanks for sharing, were is your home place in NY state ?
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Red Marker
Posted 1/28/2024 10:43 (#10597385 - in reply to #10597160)
Subject: RE: Mud got you down- a little chopper porn on a gray day…



SE PA
I was just talking about this with a friend last week after seeing pictures of it posted from Empire or Ag Progress Days back then.

It looked like in one picture the spouts were turned to chop into trucks.

It would be awesome to see that thing run. I imagine it would be a neat beast to operate. I'm glad to see it's still around!
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ClusterFarm
Posted 1/28/2024 11:44 (#10597452 - in reply to #10597365)
Subject: RE: Mud got you down- a little chopper porn on a gray day…


CNY
Fleming
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outsidethebox
Posted 1/28/2024 11:54 (#10597476 - in reply to #10597385)
Subject: RE: Mud got you down- a little chopper porn on a gray day…


Memphis, NY
They always ran it with a dump wagon. I've seen the pics you're referring to. The story goes that new Holland asked them to take it to the empire farm days to showcase the 2115, and after the first day, asked them to take it home.
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drk
Posted 1/28/2024 12:01 (#10597488 - in reply to #10597160)
Subject: RE: Mud got you down- a little chopper porn on a gray day…


IA
I wanna see it run, pretty freaking neat.
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Dvr
Posted 1/28/2024 14:06 (#10597627 - in reply to #10597160)
Subject: RE: Mud got you down- a little chopper porn on a gray day…


Edgerton MN
I remember seeing that in Farm Show way back in the 80's. Glad to see that it survived.
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Dave9110
Posted 1/28/2024 15:46 (#10597726 - in reply to #10597160)
Subject: RE: Mud got you down- a little chopper porn on a gray day…



north-central Indiana west of Fulton
I’m betting it wasn’t used that much because it wasn’t handy and did not work well.
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dabeegmon
Posted 1/28/2024 17:16 (#10597859 - in reply to #10597726)
Subject: RE: Mud got you down- a little chopper porn on a gray day…


SE Manitoba
Dave9110 - 1/28/2024 15:46

I’m betting it wasn’t used that much because it wasn’t handy and did not work well.


Well - - - AIUI - - - its a good concept except it doesn't work real well.

The front end of the crankshaft is NOT designed to transmit the entire output of the engine.
Means that you snap off the front end of the crank when things get loaded heavy.
I'm guessing that the tractor had a 3306 in it - - - its a good engine but not up to putting all the jam out the front end of the crank.

Remember reading about it at the time - - - thought of using it on a tractor with no live pto - - -just didn't do it.

Its not a bad idea - - - great for traction in tough going but somehow one would have to pull the power from the back end of the crank.
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Kingfisher567
Posted 1/28/2024 19:34 (#10598136 - in reply to #10597859)
Subject: RE: Mud got you down- a little chopper porn on a gray day…


Could you just turn the engine around or would that open a whole new can of worms?
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dabeegmon
Posted 1/28/2024 21:03 (#10598347 - in reply to #10598136)
Subject: RE: Mud got you down- a little chopper porn on a gray day…


SE Manitoba
Kingfisher567 - 1/28/2024 19:34

Could you just turn the engine around or would that open a whole new can of worms?


Hm - - - then its - - - how do you power the tractor?
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Shimmy1
Posted 1/28/2024 21:31 (#10598397 - in reply to #10597859)
Subject: RE: Mud got you down- a little chopper porn on a gray day…



Central ND
dabeegmon - 1/28/2024 17:16

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I'm guessing that the tractor had a 3306 in it - - - its a good engine but not up to putting all the jam out the front end of the crank.

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Look at the pics again. That tractor has a 903.
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gorillaguy
Posted 1/28/2024 23:58 (#10598515 - in reply to #10597160)
Subject: RE: Mud got you down- a little chopper porn on a gray day…



Gregory SD
Look at the size of that pole barn!!!
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wildcat1000
Posted 1/29/2024 02:11 (#10598537 - in reply to #10597160)
Subject: RE: Mud got you down- a little chopper porn on a gray day…


C IL
ClusterFarm - 1/28/2024 08:10

My neighbors built this in the 80’s, we had a bunch of wet falls and it was before SP choppers were very common. 2 Hesston I think choppers. Pulled a side dump Richardton wagon behind, they blew into that. They said hardest part was figuring out the shaft off the front of the engine and getting everything turning right in the drop box. It worked great, they ended up doing a lot of custom work for others with it

They were 3 brothers who came from CT, bought a farm up here in the late 70’s early 80’s when they were in their early 20’s. One of them bought a old dozer and started pushing out hedgerows, ended up turning it into a successful excavation/tile/dirt work business. The other 2 slowly grew the farm, the next generation is milking 1500 now. One of the brothers passed, they put the choppers back on for his celebration of life. Good guys, good neighbors, always tinkering with stuff, trying to make it better




Bring that fella to Rantoul, IL!
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dabeegmon
Posted 1/29/2024 05:30 (#10598586 - in reply to #10598397)
Subject: RE: Mud got you down- a little chopper porn on a gray day…


SE Manitoba
Shimmy1 - 1/28/2024 21:31

dabeegmon - 1/28/2024 17:16

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I'm guessing that the tractor had a 3306 in it - - - its a good engine but not up to putting all the jam out the front end of the crank.

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Look at the pics again. That tractor has a 903.


The 903 was an ok truck engine but for something where you needed pull down torque - - - they just didn't long term cut it.

Also wouldn't be an original, aiui, steiger didn't run 903s, 3306 3406 cats, 855 cummins, there was a v8 cat in the tiger (as an option - - - I think) and the cummins kta1150 for the 470.
Can't remember what was in the Bearcat 225.
Earlier models (before the one pictured) had detroits - - - don't know enough about those.
The very earliest models - - - I only know that they existed - - - not much about them!
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johndeere1
Posted 1/29/2024 08:01 (#10598754 - in reply to #10598586)
Subject: RE: Mud got you down- a little chopper porn on a gray day…


Central Saskatchewan Canada
dabeegmon - 1/29/2024 05:30

Shimmy1 - 1/28/2024 21:31

dabeegmon - 1/28/2024 17:16

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I'm guessing that the tractor had a 3306 in it - - - its a good engine but not up to putting all the jam out the front end of the crank.

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Look at the pics again. That tractor has a 903.


The 903 was an ok truck engine but for something where you needed pull down torque - - - they just didn't long term cut it.


Sure lots of 4880’s running around with 903’s. Couldn’t have been that bad.
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Nathan (SD)
Posted 1/29/2024 09:51 (#10598915 - in reply to #10597160)
Subject: RE: Mud got you down- a little chopper porn on a gray day…


Day Co. SD
Thanks for posting. Nice to see what guys do to solve problems.
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Big Ben
Posted 1/29/2024 10:17 (#10598957 - in reply to #10597160)
Subject: RE: Mud got you down- a little chopper porn on a gray day…


Columbia Basin, Ephrata, WA

It looks like you’d have to stop and blow out the radiator every pass. I guess if it’s that or being stuck in the mud getting nothing done, you choose the radiator cleaning.




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Shimmy1
Posted 1/29/2024 15:04 (#10599303 - in reply to #10598515)
Subject: RE: Mud got you down- a little chopper porn on a gray day…



Central ND
gorillaguy - 1/28/2024 23:58

Look at the size of that pole barn!!!


I laid asphalt millings in a 90x360 last summer. Now THATS a pole barn............



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dabeegmon
Posted 1/29/2024 15:10 (#10599313 - in reply to #10598754)
Subject: RE: Mud got you down- a little chopper porn on a gray day…


SE Manitoba
johndeere1 - 1/29/2024 08:01

dabeegmon - 1/29/2024 05:30

Shimmy1 - 1/28/2024 21:31

dabeegmon - 1/28/2024 17:16

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I'm guessing that the tractor had a 3306 in it - - - its a good engine but not up to putting all the jam out the front end of the crank.

.


Look at the pics again. That tractor has a 903.


The 903 was an ok truck engine but for something where you needed pull down torque - - - they just didn't long term cut it.


Sure lots of 4880’s running around with 903’s. Couldn’t have been that bad.


If you're talking the Massey's I think they were cheap to buy and that really helped convince buyers that they were 'good'.
If you have one - - - - drop in a 470 Detroit (trying to remember the # - - - 14l engine) and then come back and talk!

I thought if I could find a 4840 with a pto and then repower - - - that would be a decent machine for cheap $$$.
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gorillaguy
Posted 1/29/2024 22:22 (#10599924 - in reply to #10599303)
Subject: RE: Mud got you down- a little chopper porn on a gray day…



Gregory SD
Holy Moly!!!
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cedarridge
Posted 1/30/2024 15:49 (#10600840 - in reply to #10598586)
Subject: RE: Mud got you down- a little chopper porn on a gray day…


They were available with the 903 I preped 2 at the dealership new in '76 or '77.
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