Kingdom of Callaway - Fulton, Mo 65251 | dondozer - 4/22/2021 18:44
Nice fab job on the tile spoon. Where I worked in the day, we mostly worked in subdivisions laying tile for storm drains, sewers. Laid miles of if for years. Most of our work had to be put in and inspected and laid to city specifications. It had to be laid on stone, and covered to the spring line with stone, 57's. We laid all sized of the tile, and to have a spoon for each size would be a hassle. But we did do some farmer work laying smooth wall tile for outlets or in areas where too deep for tile machines. We made a spoon for 15 inch tile, thought it would be nice, but we didn't like it at all. To hard to work in trench, walking in trench you had to walk on the high sides and could slip in the groove and twist ankle. Cleaning out groove with shovel was harder, dirt had to be laid up on sides or out of trench, where if you had a smooth bottom, just kick it to the sides. Laying tile in trench, if tile is not straight, or trench not straight, they due get curved from laying is sun, doesn't like to lay down in groove. We worked with it for about a week, took it off and dug with a smooth edge bucket and the workers liked it better. In a wide, smooth trench you can curve it around at the joint, can't bend the tile with smooth wall tile. If a tile is a little shallow, we added a little stone over the top of tile and filled about a third of the way up on tile. We had proved that too narrow of a trench is worse than a wide one. If too narrow the dirt does not get around the tile and fill in on the lower part of the tile. Hope it works for you, maybe in your dirt it will, but in Ohio clay, just didn't like it.
Hi Don,
That's interesting! What do you mean by adding rock up to the spring line? Is that the top of the tile?
I wish we could bed the tile sometimes with rock, especially in clay where it would help water get to the tile better. But a lot of times like today, we are a 1/2 mile from a driveway, and the ground is way too soft to get a rock truck in. We have loaded scrapers with rock before to haul to a project, but not often.
I agree a wider trench is almost always better. Even on little water lines I use a 2ft bucket so you can get the dirt backfilled into the trench.
Our dirt must be different, we put in 800 feet of 15 inch dual wall this afternoon with the new spoon, and flat loved it. A guy on a skidloader can bring a tile stick from the side, flip it into the trench, and it falls right into the depression from the spoon. The guy digging with the excavator gives it a push with the bucket, and it's already lined up, so it just snaps in place. It worked really, really well.
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Tile spoon fab - thank you agtalk
