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Fetv
Posted 2/20/2021 21:31 (#8847646)
Subject: Acres Question


Indiana
I read that projected acres are 91 million for corn, 90 million for beans and 44 million for wheat in 2021 compared to 90m, 83m and 43m, respectively, for last year. So total acres of 225m for 2021 compared to 215m for last year. Where’s the other 10m acres come from for 2021? I would think the total would be relatively stable from year to year?
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FlatlandAgII
Posted 2/20/2021 21:44 (#8847659 - in reply to #8847646)
Subject: RE: Acres Question


Preventive plant mostly in the Dakota's, also some extra double crop because of higher prices
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swne
Posted 2/20/2021 21:57 (#8847671 - in reply to #8847646)
Subject: RE: Acres Question


Cambridge, southwestern Nebraska
Around 7 million acres of Prevent Plant acres should be available if weather cooperates.
Double crop. I think wheat acres will be off a little.
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jdironman
Posted 2/20/2021 22:16 (#8847686 - in reply to #8847671)
Subject: RE: Acres Question


Very southern Mn
I think their was some talk that acres seemed to disappear last year. Maybe they reappeared
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senorthdakota
Posted 2/20/2021 22:40 (#8847716 - in reply to #8847686)
Subject: RE: Acres Question


Mostly from pp but if we all work up a few extra feet along the roadways should really add up to.
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ithinktoomuch
Posted 2/20/2021 22:42 (#8847722 - in reply to #8847646)
Subject: RE: Acres Question


NCKS
We dont matter here, but last year there was very little double crop in the area. Both because of price and relentless rain. If bean price stays 10+ my bet is almost every acre of wheat, besides the hardcore continuous wheat guys, will have beans growing after it.
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Hilltop Husker
Posted 2/20/2021 23:09 (#8847760 - in reply to #8847659)
Subject: RE: Acres Question


Northern Nebraska
It could be to dry to plant in some of the west this spring.
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Hick
Posted 2/21/2021 01:25 (#8847835 - in reply to #8847722)
Subject: RE: Acres Question


Sw mn
Manta.
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1448
Posted 2/21/2021 05:06 (#8847870 - in reply to #8847659)
Subject: RE: Acres Question


s.w. IA
Don't double /second crop acres have a category of their own ?
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Splitflex612C
Posted 2/21/2021 06:15 (#8847892 - in reply to #8847646)
Subject: RE: Acres Question


Mo
Some Missouri River bottom ground didn’t get planted in 2020 because oh how bad the flood was in 2019.
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gofurit
Posted 2/21/2021 06:58 (#8847930 - in reply to #8847646)
Subject: RE: Acres Question


custar ohio
Just shows another weakness in USDA's projections.
Not only will we have record yields we will have record acres. They are counting on ZERO PP acres in 2021.
The guys on here staunchly defending USDA projections (the vast majority) are likely still butthurt from selling 2020 crops prematurely. They have not learned their lessons well.
The facts are we are down to 2 to 3% carryouts in 2020 and 2021 crops soys and under 10% corn. Basis levels are telling us that. Not the USDA.
Do what you want. So will I. Live and let live.
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kjs3
Posted 2/21/2021 07:25 (#8847970 - in reply to #8847659)
Subject: RE: Acres Question


se wi
Didn't they include pp in the total corn acres in 2019?
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roarintiger1
Posted 2/21/2021 07:59 (#8848036 - in reply to #8847930)
Subject: RE: Acres Question


NW Ohio
Follow the total bushels actually produced at the end of harvest 2021.
At this time, predictions by the USDA of acres possibly planted are meaningless.

Edited by roarintiger1 2/21/2021 07:59
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w1891
Posted 2/21/2021 08:14 (#8848070 - in reply to #8847930)
Subject: RE: Acres Question


S Illinois
No they are not counting on zero PP. what they are not doing is counting on 10 million acres as was the case last year while the average is 4 million.

Edit. Spelling

Edited by w1891 2/21/2021 08:16
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Jrditchdigger
Posted 2/21/2021 08:30 (#8848113 - in reply to #8847646)
Subject: RE: Acres Question


Southern MN
Hasn’t almost every record crop started as a dry year? PP will be close to zero if everyone stays dry through first half of May.
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tmrand
Posted 2/21/2021 08:34 (#8848118 - in reply to #8848070)
Subject: RE: Acres Question



Southeast Colorado
So that accounts for 6 million. What about the other 4? Do you really see that many more double crop acres when there's only 1 million more wheat acres slotted in compared to last year?? I'd assume that only the better areas of the corn belt can produce double crop soybeans. And you'd think that practice has been going on for years.
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hoofer
Posted 2/21/2021 08:47 (#8848140 - in reply to #8848118)
Subject: RE: Acres Question


SC Kansas
In central Kansas double crop acres are still expanding, amazing what will grow with any amount of subsoil moisture.
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swiz
Posted 2/21/2021 08:48 (#8848142 - in reply to #8848118)
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They double crop a lot of soybeans over in the south central Kansas area. Some years, the double crop beans are better than early plant beans.
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tmrand
Posted 2/21/2021 08:51 (#8848149 - in reply to #8848142)
Subject: RE: Acres Question



Southeast Colorado
Yah, but they need 4 million more acres than last year guys. Can we pencil you in for it?
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swiz
Posted 2/21/2021 08:55 (#8848152 - in reply to #8848149)
Subject: RE: Acres Question


I hear ya. Sounds a little far fetched to me also. I wasn't aware of all of the DC going on over that way until a few years ago. Just found it interesting.
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w1891
Posted 2/21/2021 08:56 (#8848158 - in reply to #8848118)
Subject: RE: Acres Question


S Illinois
1 million acres of CRP coming out and higher prices causing acreage to come back into production. In 2012-2014, high prices pulled in an extra 5-6 million acres of principal crops. Those dropped away as prices fell. A million from those swing acres+ 1 million CRP + 6 million PP production is 8 million extra acres available for corn and beans.
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swiz
Posted 2/21/2021 08:57 (#8848163 - in reply to #8848149)
Subject: RE: Acres Question


And the fact that there isn't that much difference in the yields between DC and primary crop beans in many years. I wouldn't have thought that.
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Reality speaks
Posted 2/21/2021 09:34 (#8848254 - in reply to #8847646)
Subject: RE: Acres Question


n. Illinois
I believe I read that 2020 was the third highest number of PP acres. Mostly in ND.
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Little papa
Posted 2/21/2021 10:38 (#8848413 - in reply to #8848254)
Subject: RE: Acres Question


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farmernick
Posted 2/21/2021 11:18 (#8848494 - in reply to #8848413)
Subject: RE: Acres Question


Midwest
so if PP is only 2 mil acres in 2021 due to dry spring, and then it rains some and the bean price makes double crop bean acres attractive, it looks likely that the US will be able to get the usda estimates planted fairly easily. The big question, as usual, is the yields, and does China keep buying corn and beans and sorghum. It is in times like this that options really shine, spend some money for puts and wait and see how the weather turns out in July and August. I know options are expensive, but so is missing out on 4.50 new crop corn and 11.50 new beans if they drop to 3.50 and 9.00 by harvest.
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