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Robert W Greif
Posted 9/21/2009 22:25 (#855388)
Subject: Installing a Joystick



Dallas Center IA 515-720-2463
About two years ago my White 2-105 had a nasty fire in the dash. Since I knew it would take me forever to get it fixed, I got myself another loader tractor.
Really I wanted to get a White 2-135 with long axles. The 2-105’s fire was an excuse to do. And on a stack of bibles - I did not set the fire!
The fire was November of 2007.
I bought the 2-135 from Anderson’s at Gowie, Iowa, good people to buy stuff from. Drove it home in early March of 2008, pulling the Westendorf Landscraper that I also got from Andersons.

The loader is a Allied 795. It took me until July to decide if I should do the welding shop makeover of the 2-105 mounting kit, or buy a factory made one. A new one was $1000-. Ordered one from Moss Brothers, Dallas Center.
Then it took me until soybean combining time to get the mounting kit on the tractor. The hand injury kinda slows things down.
Almost a year without a loader, good thing I had made a 3-point boom deal.

My 2-135 is like most Olivers and Whites before about 1987 - No float in the remotes. Oliver/White does have a float valve, but it does not detent, not very many tractors have them. Both my 2-105 and 2-155 have them.
Just had to have float on the loader up and down.
The first plan was to buy a White float valve, new or salvage, and install it as a third valve. Really scared of what it would cost.
Somebody posted here on NAT Machinery Talk about a joystick from The Surplus Center at Lincoln, Nebraska.
I had looked into a joystick for friend, seems like they were about $1000- extra on a new loader.
But this new joystick from Surplus Center was about $300-
Closed-center. Two spools, spring to center [no detent] One spool with float, it will detent in float, you do not have to hold it in float.
29 GPM max. 4,600 PSI max.
Joystick with 55” cables.

I order one and had it UPS to my boars nest before I even made the deal on the 2-135.
And it sit in my super tidy machinery storage center until a few days ago.

Just where to mount it in the tractor? I would like to have had it so I could run it with my right arm resting on the armrest. Just too much stuff in the way. Hydraulic levers, gearshift.
How about to the left of the seat? I think it would have been OK, but it would probably been in the way of getting in and out. Also if I had a rider it sure would have been in the way.
Also the best place to put the valve was on top of the small fuel tank in front and below the right side of the cab. Just no place to put the valve on the left side.
So the joystick is about a foot farther forward than I would have liked, and a few inches to high.
It will be OK.

I had figured I would need about a 2-½” square hole just under the joystick for the cables. Now that tractor has a real nice cab interior, and I am going to mess it all up on the right side!

First I made a mounting. Then I used a long drill bit and bore-sight drilled right thru the foam to mark where the cables would go thru the cab. Then removed the joystick and cut some foam out, about a inch by two inch section. Next I drilled the two holes with a 3/8” bit. Then I used a air tool that I have to make the holes bigger. One is about 5/8”, the other was a little off, I suppose it is pushing ¾”.
Don’t think I messed the cab up very much.

Today I got the valve mounted and the cables hooked up.

Plumbing. It will get it’s oil from the power-beyond that I put on this spring.
I want to use as little NPT as possible, SAE and JIC are a lot easier to take apart, and that day will come sooner or later. Plus they don’t leak.
I will put four Pioneer female couplers on the valve, no hoses and no breakaways.

The first pic is the joystick, sure wish it was lower and to the rear.

The second pic is the valve on top of the fuel tank. The pic was yesterday. It is now bolted down and the cables hooked up. The breakaways for the hoses coming up from the remote hookups in the back were in this area before.

The third pic is my hand on the stick. Sure wish my elbow was on the armrest.



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