Victoria Township, North Dakota | I have Challenger two tracks 3 of them 875B, 865C and a 765B
But back in 2000 we rented a 1998 8400T John Deere from a neighbor to finish planting in Mud with our 16 row planter. The 8x00T 8x10T and I think the 8x20T have solid mounted boogies the 8x30s and 8xxx RT's have a suspension above the boogies
If you have submerged rocks when you hit one with an 8400T the front idler goes BAM the next Boogie goes BAM second Boogie goes BAM third Boogie goes BAM and the drive wheel goes Bam but it is a smaller Bam
At 5 mph when you hit a rock this happens BAM BAM BAM BAM Bam with in 3/4th of a second.
Your lunch box or tool box, if open and sitting on the cab floor with be launched about 6 inches into the air and scattered all over your cab floor.
You will not see the rock and you will not have time to react and push in the clutch or slow down. it happens faster than human reaction time.
I have Challenger two tracks 3 of them 875B, 865C and a 765B all are gauged out to 120"s
the big ones have the C18 engines and are awesome pullers they pull as much as a 620 quad track for 1/3 the price and No DEF to mess around with.
You cannot turn in a mud hole. period
I run the 875B on the air seeder and we have been stuck 6 times this spring. some times we unhook the air seeder, drive ahead hook up the strap and pull out the air seeder if the 865C is on the other side of the farm .
it just depends if I have good solid footing to pull from at the end of my strap. You will need 8" wide 250,000# straps if you have the 8xx tractors get them in 20' lengths and buy more 40 ton shackles I am 53 and 40' and longer straps in the 8" width are too heavy to carry into a mud hole .
never let an operator keep digging until the frame is down in the mud.
I try to quit when my forward progress has stopped and the track lugs are full of mud.
If you get mud on the undercarriage stop and clean it out the dumb SOB who got it muddy gets to spend the 3 hours with the fire hose washing off the mud so stop before you make a mess.
the 865C will pull as much as the 875B it just does it with less fuel than the 875B Same tool same speed 865 uses 14 gph 875 uses 22 gpa. wish I had bought another 865B instead of the 875 but it was cool, and my deere dealer was happy to trade in my 9200 PS PTO tractor for the 875B.
The 765B is our planter tractor and grain cart tractor. the C9 is smooth an efficient. pulls a 1000 bu cart loaded no problem.. and a 24row 30" with delta force and hydraulic drive fert pump, the Vac fans and a CCS.
one of my employees was trying to be a hero and keep up with the sunflower combine in 2500#/ acre Confections on a 1.5 mile haul to the trucks and he bent 3 boogie shafts by hitting rocks at 15 mph on a rough road. I cannot believe he could stay in the seat without injury . This repair cost $10,000 to fix the bent shafts.
I have 30 inch tracks on the 765B and have not to my memory been stuck with that tractor.
B series cats have less hydraulic glitches than C, D and E models. sometimes my 865C will be missing a hydraulic outlet and I have to not plug in to 3 or 4 . the A and B models have less glitches. if an outlet disappears on a C, D or E model a Technician from you local cat dealer will hook up his lap top to the tractor and sit in the cab for 3 hours staring at his screen with a furrowed brow while the engine idles and you get a bill for $1,000.
the new Fendt's that will replace the 8xxEs with have Bosch hydrauic SCVs and MANN engines and are far less trouble so sez my Cat dealer tech the 1038's and 1042's seem to be good but spendy yet. |
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