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95h
Posted 8/22/2009 23:41 (#820944 - in reply to #820907)
Subject: Re: Freeman R and D...


Kittitas Co. Wa. State

I'm guessing they're not spending a bunch. Aside from the 'new knotter' on the 80 series..

Allied has kinda shot themselves in the foot. They are asking the "moon" for their new balers,, and the "moon and stars" for the parts.

Freeman started with a good dependable well built baler with a good design.  Granted the Freeman baler isn't the sexyist looking baler on the market BUT, the design is about bullet proof, and there is some steel in the Freeman balers.  You aren't going to drag a Freeman baler around with a glorified lawn tractor but unless a guy makes a habit of baling boulders, you aren't going to break them either.  LOL... I've baled up a rake hitch that fell off and a 3/8" chain and didn't even break the flywheel shear pin !!  Couple of ding's in the knives was the extent of the damage.

From a parts perspective Freemans score well, most of the parts fit about any of their machines from any year. Which it would seem is a real plus.  Dealer's don't have to stock a million dollars with of crazy parts just because the model or year is different.

Granted maybe the "inline" baler is better capacity wise,, but in situations like "here" guys are baling 4-5 ton/acre hay and that kind of bulk doesn't look like it will fit under the "inline" baler.  What I love about the Freeman is the ability to look straight into the feeder and see how fast the baler is feeding the hay into the bale chamber.  Yes I've seen a couple of the new inline freeman balers,, I was not impressed..

Allied was probably thinking the Freeman name-quality would allow for assinine parts and whole goods prices. (hear it refered to as 'opportunity pricing' on another thread..)  Allied may well find out they are building balers and parts they have overpriced to the point Farmers will go to a different color of baler.

 There is a guy 'here' locally who has already built and sold  a couple of "John Deere" 3 twine balers.  he buys a 2 twine John Deere baler cuts the thing apart adds on another knotter/needle set, expands the bale chamber to 3 twine.  And,, he sells the baler for less than a brand new Freeman baler.

Allied may well 'foul their own nest' with their crazy prices....

 

Edit:  To give everyone an idea what 1st cutting timothy means in tonage...  I pull a Freeman 330 hydro baler with a 4430.  I bale in A1, Full throttle, (which means the ground speed is as slow as the tractor will go)  and I get 15-17 strokes in a bale. OR,, in bales,, I get 72 3 twine bales per acre on 1st cutting.  I have baled timothy where even going as  slow as the tractor would go I only got 10 strokes before the baler kicked out a bale.

Granted an engine baler would allow for a slower ground speed over the hydro,, but then there is another engine to dink with, put fuel in, service, etc.etc.etc....



Edited by 95h 8/22/2009 23:53
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