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mac4440
Posted 3/27/2020 07:49 (#8142493 - in reply to #8141980)
Subject: RE: United states



Yeah, I don’t believe a word of it, worker safety is regulated by OSHA. Gotta love this Monday morning quarterbacking .
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minn gopher
Posted 3/27/2020 07:50 (#8142498 - in reply to #8142262)
Subject: RE: United states


Pine City, MN
johnwayne360 - 3/27/2020 05:10

yeah. they love the press briefings so much they quit putting them on tv.

where has he been wrong? has he said the wrong things and done the right thing? or has he done the wrong thing?

shutting off travel from asia in january..right or wrong?

allowing governors to do whats right for their state. right or wrong?

and ill leave you with this question. wouldnt it be wonderful if americans could get together and celebrate safely on easter?



I think it very obvious he has been wrong more than right as I stated.. I think anyone with any shred of fairness can see that.

It would be. But offering false hope isn’t correct. Granted at this point sadly, I’m guessing most Americans don’t believe anything he says anyway.

I will say this Dr. Fauci is going to have a doozy of a book once this is over.
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mac4440
Posted 3/27/2020 07:53 (#8142508 - in reply to #8142144)
Subject: RE: United states



Could you imagine the outrage if if they sprayed “dangerous” chemicals everywhere here.
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Rockman
Posted 3/27/2020 07:55 (#8142513 - in reply to #8141468)
Subject: RE: What advantage do they gain by lying?


I suggest we swab off the beer cup used at the ag-talk kegger chugging contest at your place this spring***

Good luck seams a little deficient.





Iowegian - 3/26/2020 20:04

I am waiting for CV-19 test results and they told me it would be 7 days. Does it matter???? Suppose CNN or some other left wing nut case for media outfit could do a story on me. Wish they would b/c I would tell them the truth. It does NOT matter one bit. They quarantined me to my house for up to 7 - 14 days. I do not need to be in a hospital b/c I am not sick enough. I have instructions to go to the hospital if I feel it is needed. Frankly, the safest place for me is not in a hospital, but at home.

What more could be done even if I knew the results????

Does it matter????
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JC STONE
Posted 3/27/2020 08:01 (#8142539 - in reply to #8142452)
Subject: RE: United states


One or the other it was still a joke
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minn gopher
Posted 3/27/2020 08:15 (#8142582 - in reply to #8142297)
Subject: RE: United states


Pine City, MN
johnwayne360 - 3/27/2020 05:36

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/

pay special attention to the one comparing with barack obama


That Obama is only a couple points ahead?

Pay attention to GW after 9/11.
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cornstalk
Posted 3/27/2020 08:37 (#8142644 - in reply to #8142498)
Subject: RE: United states



Anderson County Kansas
So 60 percent of people don't have a shred of fairness? 60 percent approve of his handling of this. So you are right and the majority of people are wrong. That's how most libs think. They are better and smarter than everyone else.
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minn gopher
Posted 3/27/2020 08:54 (#8142689 - in reply to #8142644)
Subject: RE: United states


Pine City, MN
cornstalk - 3/27/2020 07:37

So 60 percent of people don't have a shred of fairness? 60 percent approve of his handling of this. So you are right and the majority of people are wrong. That's how most libs think. They are better and smarter than everyone else.



But, I’m not a lib.

I just think it’s ok to be critical of this current president. Some like yourself I assume don’t

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WCOH
Posted 3/27/2020 08:59 (#8142702 - in reply to #8142149)
Subject: RE: United states


MattNWOH - 3/27/2020 00:24

Oh I would love to hear what you think a good source is. I stick mostly with my Governor.

Do tell what I should know that will make me feel all better. Let’s see some sources, bud. I’m well versed in this thing. Tell me what makes you feel so good. I want whatever BS you’re eating up.


i appreciate what our govenor has done for us and try to listen to his daily update. He and his staff have tried to keep Ohioans as updated and calmed down with facts as possible. For an unbiased opinion I try turning to outside the US sources BBC, and yes Aljazeera, Never thought I would turn to them. Tired of hearing the political rrhetoric coming from the United States sources like Fox,CNN, MSNBC etc. Think there isn't a one of them that understands their credibilty goes down everyday. People just want facts now and not a stupid political bias. Some of the regional stations are shutting down the dumb talk radio people and going to local news also which seems a little more unbiased.
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WCOH
Posted 3/27/2020 09:00 (#8142708 - in reply to #8142149)
Subject: RE: United states


MattNWOH - 3/27/2020 00:24

Oh I would love to hear what you think a good source is. I stick mostly with my Governor.

Do tell what I should know that will make me feel all better. Let’s see some sources, bud. I’m well versed in this thing. Tell me what makes you feel so good. I want whatever BS you’re eating up.


i appreciate what our govenor has done for us and try to listen to his daily update. He and his staff have tried to keep Ohioans as updated and calmed down with facts as possible. For an unbiased opinion I try turning to outside the US sources BBC, and yes Aljazeera, Never thought I would turn to them. Tired of hearing the political rrhetoric coming from the United States sources like Fox,CNN, MSNBC etc. Think there isn't a one of them that understands their credibilty goes down everyday. People just want facts now and not a stupid political bias. Some of the regional stations are shutting down the dumb talk radio people and going to local news also which seems a little more unbiased.
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cornstalk
Posted 3/27/2020 09:14 (#8142746 - in reply to #8142009)
Subject: RE: What advantage do they gain by lying?



Anderson County Kansas
Clinton molesting interns in the oval office wasn't very Christian either.
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southlafarmer
Posted 3/27/2020 09:19 (#8142767 - in reply to #8141049)
Subject: RE: What advantage do they gain by lying?


Getoffmylawn - 3/26/2020 18:01

We know they took drastic action in locking down a major city. We know they monitored everyone’s temperature and quickly isolated those with fevers from the general population. They were getting covid 19 test turnaround times of 4 hours. We haven’t done any of these things.


China's test that they sent to Spain only work 30% of the time according to the Spanish govt.
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southlafarmer
Posted 3/27/2020 09:27 (#8142783 - in reply to #8142149)
Subject: RE: United states


MattNWOH - 3/27/2020 00:24

Oh I would love to hear what you think a good source is. I stick mostly with my Governor.

Do tell what I should know that will make me feel all better. Let’s see some sources, bud. I’m well versed in this thing. Tell me what makes you feel so good. I want whatever BS you’re eating up.


Case #s don't matter because of the different amount of test being performed. Death rate and ICU rate are what matter

Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birk are who you should be listening to. Also Reuters, WSJ have some good insights from different medical people around the country

Is this serious? yes. Is it the Bubonic Plague like many in the media want it to be? not even close

The British scientist that came up with Imperial College model that everyone was following at the beginning came out yesterday and said he was wrong and its not nearly had bad as he thought
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WCOH
Posted 3/27/2020 09:52 (#8142824 - in reply to #8142783)
Subject: RE: United states


southlafarmer - 3/27/2020 09:27

MattNWOH - 3/27/2020 00:24

Oh I would love to hear what you think a good source is. I stick mostly with my Governor.

Do tell what I should know that will make me feel all better. Let’s see some sources, bud. I’m well versed in this thing. Tell me what makes you feel so good. I want whatever BS you’re eating up.


Case #s don't matter because of the different amount of test being performed. Death rate and ICU rate are what matter

Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birk are who you should be listening to. Also Reuters, WSJ have some good insights from different medical people around the country

Is this serious? yes. Is it the Bubonic Plague like many in the media want it to be? not even close

The British scientist that came up with Imperial College model that everyone was following at the beginning came out yesterday and said he was wrong and its not nearly had bad as he thought


If we had to get a variant strain of the original SARS virus we can consider ourselves lucky as a species. As bad as this seems, and it will be no walk in the park. If the original SARS Virus was as contagious and undetectable as this one is we would be digging mass graves by now.
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WCOH
Posted 3/27/2020 09:54 (#8142835 - in reply to #8142824)
Subject: RE: United states


WCOH - 3/27/2020 09:52

southlafarmer - 3/27/2020 09:27

MattNWOH - 3/27/2020 00:24

Oh I would love to hear what you think a good source is. I stick mostly with my Governor.

Do tell what I should know that will make me feel all better. Let’s see some sources, bud. I’m well versed in this thing. Tell me what makes you feel so good. I want whatever BS you’re eating up.


Case #s don't matter because of the different amount of test being performed. Death rate and ICU rate are what matter

Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birk are who you should be listening to. Also Reuters, WSJ have some good insights from different medical people around the country

Is this serious? yes. Is it the Bubonic Plague like many in the media want it to be? not even close

The British scientist that came up with Imperial College model that everyone was following at the beginning came out yesterday and said he was wrong and its not nearly had bad as he thought


If we had to get a variant strain of the original SARS virus we can consider ourselves lucky as a species. As bad as this seems, and it will be no walk in the park. If the original SARS Virus was as contagious and undetectable as this one is we would be digging mass graves by now.


I shall correct myself the word I was looking for instead of undetectable was assymptomatic.
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johnwayne360
Posted 3/27/2020 12:26 (#8143168 - in reply to #8142498)
Subject: RE: United states


near dyersville iowa
state the obvious wrongs that he committed please.
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cornstalk
Posted 3/27/2020 13:40 (#8143341 - in reply to #8142689)
Subject: RE: United states



Anderson County Kansas
I don't think any of this is his fault and he has done a pretty good job. He was the one that closed travel from China amid objections from both parties and being called a xenophobe by Biden. Now everyone says he said an untold number of lives. There is no set way to handle something like this, we have to do our best and learn from it. Obama did a lot poorer job with H1N1 in 2009.

Edited by cornstalk 3/27/2020 13:42
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rank
Posted 3/27/2020 14:56 (#8143468 - in reply to #8142746)
Subject: RE: What advantage do they gain by lying?


SEON
cornstalk - 3/27/2020 09:14

Clinton molesting interns in the oval office wasn't very Christian either.

if she was a he it would’ve been Catholic at least
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Cyclone88
Posted 3/27/2020 16:07 (#8143601 - in reply to #8141918)
Subject: RE: Sigh.....


NE IA
while I don't agree with most of what getoffmylawn says to think they somehow mid 21 million bodies while all eyes have been on them is pure conspiracy.
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minn gopher
Posted 3/28/2020 09:38 (#8145538 - in reply to #8143168)
Subject: RE: United states


Pine City, MN
johnwayne360 - 3/27/2020 11:26

state the obvious wrongs that he committed please.


This is a very fair article from March 13. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/3/13/21176535/trumps-wo...


All quotes and dates are 100% facts.


I will add I seen the tape of his NOrth Carolina campaign speech. I see no way his wasn’t calling the virus a hoax. I understand some believe he was calling the media’s reporting a hoax. Which literally makes no sense. Granted that happens quiet often with him.

He knew, the senate knew this was going to be real bad in late January. You no when a couple senators sold there stock and bought up some work from home stock?!?

And they did basically nothing except the China travel band. Which if you look at flight records wasn’t a band at all. Tons of flights from China to United States took place after that.

I’m not saying he was going to get this thing perfect. No one would have. I’m just saying the wrongs out way the rights. That’s all I said from the beginning.

Edited by minn gopher 3/28/2020 10:35
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johnwayne360
Posted 3/29/2020 09:36 (#8148273 - in reply to #8145538)
Subject: RE: United states


near dyersville iowa
If you consider that article unbiased I can't even debate you.

The senator thing..that has been going on forever.on both sides. It's terrible. But they made a judgement call, as did Trump. There is really no way to prove any of Trump's actions are right or wrong at this point. Only an opposite position to argue. A bunch of made up best/worse case scenarios. And neither side wins that argument in the long run.
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