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Posted 3/5/2020 22:31 (#8084927 - in reply to #8084911)
Subject: RE: Farmers fight John Deere


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johnypop - 3/5/2020 22:22

CASE3594 - 3/5/2020 08:33

Let’s be honest, how many people actually want to do repairs to the newer systems and how many are just upset that Deere is saying you “can’t”?

In all actuality, it takes around 5 years of training and experience before a technician is really up to speed on these things. Who is really going to invest $10,000+ for computer hardware and software then take the chance they may be able to make a repair when they do this once or twice a year? A lot of issues can be solved in a matter of a few minutes with a laptop and a tech that knows what he’s doing. Does anyone truly think that the extremely complicated issues that take trained techs several hours to diagnose and repair can be done quicker by someone who spends a few minutes a year troubleshooting their own equipment?

The amount of technology in newer equipment was called rocket science a couple decades ago. It’s not something you can just ‘figure out’ on the go. I’m sure some are more than capable, but the majority are not. We’re quickly approaching the point where the operator needs a large amount of training, let alone the guy doing repairs. I’ve held a ‘master technician’ status from CNH, but I wouldn’t want to do high level diagnostic work on our 2019 Chevy, even with the proper diagnostic tools. Just too many things I’m not familiar with. It’s only going to get more and more complicated for someone who isn’t familiar with it.


Good information, be better off if the guys would take the plastic off and read the operators manual front to back, lots of info in there.


Agree with both posters here! Like I mentioned in my post when I was a service rep I did lots of combine clinics. 85% of the clinic was simply walking around the machine explaining all the stuff anyone would find in the op manual......and I'd always get, "I never knew that!" If you read your OM you would!

What I find the funniest about al ot of this banter is when I have a machine go down in the middle of spring or harvest, if I can't fix it quickly I've gotta call Deere as I've got 20 other fires cooking. Like I'm gonna spend 12 hrs diagnosing something. Even my seeding tractor, that one will get unhooked and switched with another and we'll keep rolling.
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