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John Burns

Posted 8/26/2019 20:00 (#7698918 - in reply to #7698586)
Subject: Fetke and Noakes

Pittsburg, Kansas

If you want to follow similar stories with doctors and researchers look up Gary Fetke (a doctor forbidden to discuss dietary advice with his patients) and Tim Noakes (researcher, former athlete and professional athlete trainer). Both ostracized for not towing the "conventional" medical line. Neither from the US, so it is a problem more widespread than just here.

John

Edited by John Burns 8/26/2019 20:00

Diabetes (or if you suffer from done-lap disease) - John Burns : 8/25/2019 17:22
- My experience - John Burns : 8/25/2019 18:13
  - RE: My experience - unknown legend : 8/25/2019 21:54
    - RE: My experience - John Burns : 8/25/2019 22:29
      - So, in other words... - Clodbuster1 : 8/26/2019 08:37
        
        RE: So, in other words... - John Burns : 8/26/2019 13:53
        
        RE: So, in other words... - Clodbuster1 : 8/26/2019 16:57
        
        Fetke and Noakes - John Burns : 8/26/2019 20:00
        
        RE: Fetke and Noakes - Clodbuster1 : 8/26/2019 20:59
  - RE: My experience - something I forgot - John Burns : 8/31/2019 14:20
  - RE: My experience - nav698 : 9/1/2019 20:19
  - RE: My experience - OlsonKrist : 9/4/2019 16:19
    - Diving - John Burns : 9/4/2019 19:57
      - RE: Diving - OlsonKrist : 9/4/2019 20:49
        
        RE: Diving - John Burns : 9/4/2019 21:40
  - RE: Marking nt - John K : 2/25/2020 18:01
- RE: Diabetes (or if you suffer from done-lap disease) - johnny skeptical : 8/25/2019 20:28
  - RE: Diabetes (or if you suffer from done-lap disease) - John Burns : 8/25/2019 20:52
    - RE: Diabetes (or if you suffer from done-lap disease) - johnny skeptical : 8/25/2019 21:09
      - RE: Diabetes (or if you suffer from done-lap disease) - John Burns : 8/25/2019 22:45
      - RE: Diabetes (or if you suffer from done-lap disease) - jtdau : 8/27/2019 09:34
    - RE: Diabetes (or if you suffer from done-lap disease) - Turbodog : 8/25/2019 21:22
      - RE: Diabetes (or if you suffer from done-lap disease) - johnny skeptical : 8/25/2019 21:27
      - RE: Diabetes (or if you suffer from done-lap disease) - John Burns : 8/25/2019 22:50
- RE: Diabetes (or if you suffer from done-lap disease) - 68milkman : 8/25/2019 21:08
  - Butter Bob Briggs - John Burns : 8/25/2019 23:24
    - RE: Butter Bob Briggs - born_in_ad1 : 8/26/2019 10:05
      - RE: Butter Bob Briggs - John Burns : 8/26/2019 14:10
    - RE: Butter Bob Briggs - Mrs B : 8/26/2019 10:27
      - Fat Bombs - John Burns : 8/26/2019 14:28
- NT - Bill Moyer : 8/26/2019 09:42
- RE: Diabetes (or if you suffer from done-lap disease) - ronm : 8/26/2019 10:57
  - RE: Diabetes (or if you suffer from done-lap disease) - John Burns : 8/26/2019 14:43
    - RE: Diabetes (or if you suffer from done-lap disease) - Red Fox : 8/26/2019 16:01
      - Ivor Cummins - John Burns : 8/26/2019 20:09
      - a good one for you - John Burns : 8/26/2019 20:38
- RE: Diabetes (or if you suffer from done-lap disease) - BRIAN : 8/26/2019 16:37
  - Butter Bob Briggs - John Burns : 8/26/2019 20:22
- A keto meal - John Burns : 8/26/2019 21:42
  - RE: A keto meal - Lone Wolf Picker : 8/26/2019 21:57
    - RE: A keto meal - John Burns : 8/26/2019 22:07
      - RE: A keto meal - johnny skeptical : 8/27/2019 18:16
        
        insta-pot - John Burns : 8/27/2019 18:50
        
        RE: insta-pot - johnny skeptical : 8/27/2019 18:55
    - Dr Jason Fung on treating type II diabetes - John Burns : 8/27/2019 07:26
      - RE: Dr Jason Fung on treating type II diabetes - JD 9400 : 9/3/2019 11:09
  - Reservation for one, please! - Clodbuster1 : 8/27/2019 12:46
- RE: Diabetes (or if you suffer from done-lap disease) - puff33m : 8/27/2019 08:37
  - RE: Diabetes (or if you suffer from done-lap disease) - John Burns : 8/27/2019 12:12
  - one really helpful thing - John Burns : 8/27/2019 13:44
    - RE: one really helpful thing - Mrs B : 8/29/2019 07:27
- RE: Diabetes (or if you suffer from done-lap disease) - runningbehind : 8/27/2019 10:32
  - RE: Diabetes (or if you suffer from done-lap disease) - John Burns : 8/27/2019 13:46
- RE: Diabetes (or if you suffer from done-lap disease) - Smokey : 8/27/2019 11:26
  - RE: Diabetes (or if you suffer from done-lap disease) - pointrow : 8/27/2019 12:10
    - RE: Diabetes (or if you suffer from done-lap disease) - John Burns : 8/27/2019 13:52
- Banting diet - for the history buffs or anyone that wants to understand weight gain and insulin - John Burns : 8/27/2019 14:30
  - heart disease, stroke, cholesterol and salt intake - John Burns : 8/30/2019 15:45
- RE: Diabetes (or if you suffer from done-lap disease) - Fawazhay : 8/27/2019 22:25
  - RE: Diabetes (or if you suffer from done-lap disease) - angus man : 8/28/2019 05:35
    - the blessings of life - John Burns : 8/28/2019 07:35
      - RE: the blessings of life - Lefty11 : 8/28/2019 09:09
        
        RE: the blessings of life - John Burns : 8/28/2019 12:13
    - RE: Diabetes (or if you suffer from done-lap disease) - redoak : 9/1/2019 07:25
- RE: Diabetes (or if you suffer from done-lap disease) - GM Guy : 8/29/2019 02:01
  - The Two Big Lies of Type 2 Diabetes - John Burns : 8/29/2019 07:34
    - RE: The Two Big Lies of Type 2 Diabetes - dpilot83 : 8/29/2019 08:52
      - RE: The Two Big Lies of Type 2 Diabetes - John Burns : 8/29/2019 12:54
    - RE: The Two Big Lies of Type 2 Diabetes - chipmaker : 8/29/2019 10:59
      - RE: The Two Big Lies of Type 2 Diabetes - John Burns : 8/29/2019 13:11
    - RE: The Two Big Lies of Type 2 Diabetes - Mmaxed : 8/29/2019 11:25
      - RE: The Two Big Lies of Type 2 Diabetes - John Burns : 8/29/2019 13:15
- Dr. Benjamin Bikman - 'Insulin vs. Ketones - The Battle for Brown Fat' - John Burns : 8/29/2019 22:55
  - RE: Dr. Benjamin Bikman - 'Insulin vs. Ketones - The Battle for Brown Fat' - abordone : 8/30/2019 04:13
    - RE: Dr. Benjamin Bikman - 'Insulin vs. Ketones - The Battle for Brown Fat' - John Burns : 8/30/2019 07:51
      - RE: Dr. Benjamin Bikman - 'Insulin vs. Ketones - The Battle for Brown Fat' - 4055 : 9/2/2019 17:54
- intermittant fasting and effects of weight loss and diabetic remission - John Burns : 8/30/2019 08:35
  - RE: intermittant fasting and effects of weight loss and diabetic remission - Clodbuster1 : 8/30/2019 14:16
    - gluconeogenesis - John Burns : 8/30/2019 22:00
- if you are taking insulin or other diabetic drugs - John Burns : 8/30/2019 21:55
  - RE: if you are taking insulin or other diabetic drugs - Bill Moyer : 9/2/2019 07:20
- Banned from TP ? - redoak : 8/31/2019 17:54
  - cholesterol - John Burns : 8/31/2019 18:45
    - RE: cholesterol - redoak : 9/1/2019 07:09
      - RE: cholesterol - John Burns : 9/1/2019 13:52
        
        RE: cholesterol - Turbodog : 9/2/2019 07:30
        
        RE: cholesterol - John Burns : 9/2/2019 10:09
        Statin wars - John Burns : 9/2/2019 14:41
        here is another one for you Turbodog - John Burns : 9/2/2019 21:18
        
        RE: cholesterol - better audio and you can see the slide information - John Burns : 9/2/2019 18:28
        
        CAC for $50 - John Burns : 9/2/2019 18:37
    - RE: cholesterol - ohiohorsewoman : 9/2/2019 08:50
      - the TP thing = no worries - John Burns : 9/2/2019 09:08
- If you are a grazer, eating (or drinking drinks with calories) many times a day........ - John Burns : 9/2/2019 09:20
- RE: Diabetes (or if you suffer from done-lap disease) - dpilot83 : 9/2/2019 10:10
  - kidney failure and meat with bonus - salt - John Burns : 9/2/2019 10:22
    - RE: kidney failure and meat with bonus - salt - dpilot83 : 9/2/2019 10:48
      - RE: kidney failure and meat with bonus - salt - John Burns : 9/2/2019 11:35
        
        RE: kidney failure and meat with bonus - salt - dpilot83 : 9/2/2019 12:29
        
        take the right kind of snacks to the field - John Burns : 9/2/2019 12:55
        
        RE: take the right kind of snacks to the field - dpilot83 : 9/4/2019 16:53
        
        RE: take the right kind of snacks to the field - John Burns : 9/4/2019 21:22
        
        salad dressing recipe - John Burns : 9/4/2019 21:53
        
        RE: salad dressing recipe - JD 9400 : 9/4/2019 23:30
        
        specifics on the salad dressing - John Burns : 9/5/2019 08:55
        
        RE: specifics on the salad dressing - JD 9400 : 9/5/2019 15:21
        
        adding tomato paste - John Burns : 9/13/2019 15:47
    - RE: kidney failure and meat with bonus - salt - dpilot83 : 9/2/2019 10:50
      - RE: kidney failure and meat with bonus - salt - John Burns : 9/2/2019 11:55
      - here is one on meat and kidneys - research links included under videos - John Burns : 9/2/2019 12:03
        
        Ekberg plus low carb and no carb food list - ie what to eat - John Burns : 9/2/2019 12:33
    - don't be too hard on the doctor - John Burns : 9/2/2019 11:04
      - RE: don't be too hard on the doctor - angus man : 9/2/2019 20:31
- RE: Diabetes (or if you suffer from done-lap disease) - Streetfarmer : 9/2/2019 20:50
  - RE: Diabetes (or if you suffer from done-lap disease) - John Burns : 9/2/2019 21:14
- Don't fear protein if you are doing keto - John Burns : 9/3/2019 16:17
  - RE: Don't fear protein if you are doing keto - John Burns : 9/4/2019 13:23
    - RE: Don't fear protein if you are doing keto - JD 9400 : 9/4/2019 14:11
      - RE: Don't fear protein if you are doing keto - John Burns : 9/4/2019 20:17
        
        I should add - John Burns : 9/4/2019 22:59
      - RE: Don't fear protein if you are doing keto - Mrs B : 9/4/2019 20:19
        
        RE: Don't fear protein if you are doing keto - John Burns : 9/4/2019 20:48
        RE: Don't fear protein if you are doing keto - JD 9400 : 9/4/2019 23:32
        
        RE: Don't fear protein if you are doing keto - angus man : 9/11/2019 20:38
        
        RE: Don't fear protein if you are doing keto - dutchdirtfarmer : 9/12/2019 19:39
        
        RE: Don't fear protein if you are doing keto - Mrs B : 9/22/2019 08:18
        
        RE: Don't fear protein if you are doing keto - John Burns : 9/22/2019 10:15
        RE: Don't fear protein if you are doing keto - dutchdirtfarmer : 9/22/2019 12:07
        
        RE: Don't fear protein if you are doing keto - DaveMk : 9/22/2019 13:37
- another outstanding interview for diabetics or pre-diabetic - John Burns : 9/13/2019 12:00
- Watching - mutt : 9/17/2019 20:14
- For type I diabetics - John Burns : 9/20/2019 20:15
- How long does it take to reverse insulin resistance? (diabetes type II) - John Burns : 9/21/2019 11:37
- Professor Jeff Volek - John Burns : 9/22/2019 10:10
- Marking - 801486 : 9/29/2019 05:57
  - RE: Marking - Bill Moyer : 10/27/2019 17:38
    - RE: Marking - spikerz : 11/12/2019 13:30
    - RE: Marking NT - Bill Moyer : 12/11/2019 00:46
- RE: Diabetes (or if you suffer from done-lap disease)NT - Bill Moyer : 12/12/2019 16:26
- RE: Diabetes (or if you suffer from done-lap disease)NT - Bill Moyer : 3/24/2020 22:44
  - RE: Diabetes (or if you suffer from done-lap disease)NT - Bill Moyer : 4/23/2020 11:28
- RE: Diabetes (or if you suffer from done-lap disease)NT - Bill Moyer : 5/20/2020 15:25
- RE: Diabetes (or if you suffer from done-lap disease) - Swervie : 3/29/2021 00:06

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