DavidM - Widow makers! barren - I would hate to be without one but they can be dangerous. mn2 - I use them but hate them also. Direct Injected - Got my finger smashed... I understand these feelings completely. I have a love/hate relationship with these things. They are like a few people I know, I trust them as far as I can throw them. But at the same time they sometimes are the only choice for the job. | 
handyman jack
