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Posted 7/7/2016 02:24 (#5396614 - in reply to #5396526)
Subject: RE: Cryptomyte by Genesis Ag


Ollie Ver - 7/6/2016 23:26

Thank you !! Just for the record, I DONE BOT 1 tote of Cryptomyte (and some Sentry) - (before reading your message).....

IF I'm ever gonna hit a home run, this is the year!

Corn looks great! And it has since the day it was planted !!!!!!
( LG 2642 - which has been known to, easily, hit 285 bu here...)
No bugs, no weeds, no hail....
Big hairy roots, lots of huge leaves, tissue samples look quite good.....
(Mg is a hair low, so Epsom Salt to the rescue!)
850 gpm available for sprinkler, profile good and full.....
Even emergence.... Planted 40,000. (30" rows.) Maybe 35,000 came up.......in 1 day! Spacing quite decent...
Another 2,000 came up a day or 2 later...

All Strictly a Miracle, I'm NOT braggin...

(The rest either did Not come up, or came up weeks later, too far behind to bother...)

Lost maybe 1,000 in a windstorm, but survivors are undamaged.

QUESTION !!
WHAT IS THE YIELD POTENTIAL? What rate of Cryptomyte?

Seriously, could this corn go 375 bu.......? Why not?
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Gonna fly on a shot, about Sat. or Mon......
Let's see... 275 gal. in that tote....
How many acres should that be sprayed on?

How about spreadin 190 gal on 55 acres (3.6 gal/a.)? And savin 85 gal., for a 2nd shot on the best 25 of those acres (3.4 gal/a.)? ....a real SHOWDOWN!!! (Actually, gonna rely on Yield Monitor to map the field. .....don't have patience for cuttin patches... Aw, THud....)

How much water needs to go with 190 gal., for foliar spray?

How much sugar? Your program sez: 4.0 oz Carbose...... (....Oops, 'forgot' to order that ...was thinkin of sourcing that locally.... Bad Idea??)
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Or would you recommend 2.5 gal / acre X 110 acres??
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Whew ! I'm long-winded....

Thanks again.

PS Heard about your seed treatment a bit too late, but did get some on 25 acres...

PPS Your website is nuthin to apologize for... It is VERY VERY user-friendly..... You do fine with techy stuff....
Label rates are obviously adjustable....
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I honestly don't know if i can answer this here. I had a post taken down once for being too commercial that didn't even mention my company or a product and didn't even have my sig/URL in it. :-)

We can take this offline if someone gets bent about it, but figured I'd answer what I could here in case someone else is reading along, and I want to answer this with enough detail that if someone wants to glean some useful info out of this to get some yield results on their farm without buying any of our stuff they should be able to do that. Here goes:

"Most guys" will go on with the cryptomyte the same time they go on with a fungicide. I put "most guys" in quotes because this is the first year it's been available to the general public. It's been used by growers for several years, but limited to our technical advisory board.

Some of these guys are shooting for higher yields may decide that they'd like to spray on a fungicide twice. That's the reason for the "14 days later" application that shows up in the recommendation you referenced in the first post.

In that case, 1 gallon per 100 bushels of "yield potential", each time. If you're only going to spray on fungicides once, then ~1.5 gallons per 100 bushels of yield potential the once....with a caveat...never more than 4 gallons per acre at a time. So your rate of application looks about right. Use just enough water to make sure you can get an even application across your field.

Which brings us to your next question: what's the yield potential? You would know better than anyone. What have you done in the past? What did you set out your fertility program to support?

If I'm forced to guesstimate (without knowing your fertility program or seeing your field) a very good/respectable yield would be around 1 bushel per 100 plants in your final harvest stand...assuming even emergence. The extra couple thousand that came up a day later, I might discount their potential a bit, and you said you lost 1,000 or so due to wind. Lots of assumptions here, but without a serious yield limiting factor in macros secondary or micros it *could* be a little under what you're hoping for.

Regarding carbose, it's a source of sugar and microbes. You can use a locally sourced carbon source if you have something you already use and like. This is getting into our philosophy a little bit which some people can argue about, but we frequently like to pair our fertilizers with a carbon source.

I would recommend people to test it on their own farms if they aren't already. It's pretty cheap to test....and there are lots of ways to test this very inexpensively.

I'm not smart enough to know why it works. Some people say the plant naturally wants nutes paired with carbons because it reduces the work they have to do. Others say the microbes go crazy for the sugar and replicate like mad and boost the biology in the soil. I don't personally know. I'm just going along with what the guys who're blowing the lid off of the yield monitors are saying and doing.

Carbose is maybe different than going to Sam's club and buying a palette of sugar (which some guys do) because 4 different types of sugar and some microbes which are good at turning stuff that's "laying around" into more sugars. Again, I can't say for certain why we do four kinds, but I had to guess I would say that it's because organisms look for different kinds of sugar depending on where they are in their life cycle and we don't know what's their looking for so we just put it all in there and hope they like one of 'em :-)


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