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Posted 7/1/2016 15:38 (#5385733 - in reply to #5385592)
Subject: RE: GMO's are really bad!!


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Buster 50 - 7/1/2016 12:29

We need someone to go thru and debunk this article https://foodandplanet.com/2013/09/05/dirtier-than-the-dirty-dozen-wh... I'm too old to read all this crap or I would do it. Maybe one of the young college kids could do a paper on it or better yet, a PH-D dissertation.

"Here are a few things that we know about GMOs:
•GMO foods contain proteins not found in natural foods that trigger allergic reactions. In fact soy allergies skyrocketed by 50% in the UK after GMO soy was introduced1.
•GMO foods may also make you allergic to other foods. Mice fed genetically modified peas started reacting to a variety of other foods1.
•The Bt toxin produced by GMO corn acts as a pesticide by puncturing holes in the stomachs of insects. It is now known to kill human kidney cells2.
•This same Bt toxin produced in every cell of GMO corn has been found in the majority of pregnant women’s blood tested3.
•GMO corn contains startling levels of formaldehyde4. Formaldehyde is known to cause cancer.
•The only human study on GMO foods showed that genetically modified DNA could transfer to human gut bacteria and continue to function1. That’s right. Our gut bacteria can become genetically modified. We do not know if this is ever reversible.
•GMO foods have higher levels of pesticide and herbicide residues, especially the most commonly used herbicide, Roundup®5.
•Roundup® cannot be washed off the food. It is sprayed on the fields and taken up into the edible parts of the plants.
•Roundup® kills beneficial gut bacteria in humans6.
•Roundup® may be linked with inflammatory bowel, obesity, depression, cancer, and even autism5.

I'm getting depressed thinking about all the work they put into tearing down our profession..


Not a single one of those references comes from an actual study. One is a commentary from a computer scientist at MIT who was just speculating about what Roundup might do to people. She never conducted any research. Others are from Jeffrey Smith - a well-known anti-agriculture activist who routinely twists real research claims to make them sound scary - mice never developed allergic reactions to food. The formaldehyde thing was a hoax. It was cobbled together, faked soil test results that were claimed to be corn grain nutrient studies. It came up on this forum years ago:
http://talk.newagtalk.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=382501&mid=303...

No one has ever had a documented allergic reaction to any commercial GMO. Back during the Starlink fiasco, one guy claimed he had an allergic reaction to the unapproved Bt protein in Starlink corn. He went to the hospital where they did a double-blind, placebo controlled allergen test. He did not react to either the placebo or the Bt.

The Bt in blood thing was nonsense. They used a test that doesn't distinguish between multiple Cry proteins, so you could have easily concluded that the Bt came from eating organic food sprayed with Bt. But, it doesn't really matter, because what they found was below the detection limit of the test - which means they found nothing. Random noise.

Genetic fragments (NOT intact genes) float around in the gut and can get incorporated into bacterial cells. That has happened ever since animals began eating food. Nothing new. Eat a steak, some genetic fragments end up in your gut bacteria. This does not make the bacteria in your gut turn into tiny cows. Incidentally, Bt is a *soil* bacteria. we have been eating traces of Bt since we began pulling food out of the ground. And anyone who says Bt crops have higher levels of insecticide use & residue is lying. Period.

Yes, you will be eating a few parts per billion of Roundup in your food. You will also be eating thousands of other natural chemicals that are far more toxic. These chemicals all exist at concentrations far too low to cause any problems for anyone. See Bruce Ames' (UC Berkley) work on pesticide residues vs. natural carcinogens. Incidentally, ALL systemic herbicides are in the plant and can't be 'washed off'. No big deal. Roundup isn't linked to any diseases - they are playing with correlation like this example in which organic food sales are 'linked' to autism:
http://www.snopes.com/media/notnews/organic.asp

This entire list is nothing but a re-hashed mixture of hoaxes and misrepresented research that has all been long debunked, but it will live forever on the internet unfortunately.
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