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nebfarmer
Posted 5/14/2016 08:46 (#5300837)
Subject: Where the heck did all these allergies come from?


SE Nebraska, Near Misery and Cans Ass!
I was in the grand kids school in Council Bluffs a while back and walked by several classrooms for kids with allergies.
Peanuts and gluten I remember but there were several more. I asked about them and they said there were 116 students that were isolated in these rooms. They said several of them came to school in "moon suits" until they got into their room and that there were several that never got to take them off. Never heard of them when I was young. Guess they just died of unknown causes then.
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OntarioCanuck
Posted 5/14/2016 09:10 (#5300867 - in reply to #5300837)
Subject: RE: Where the heck did all these allergies come from?


North of London

Or some of those allergies come from self diagnosing.
Gluten free is not a healthy choice according to nutritionists and many people are jumping on it as a fad rather than a medical need.
One of the problems of our society ignoring science and following internet stories and authors books written with pseudo science 'facts'.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/gluten-free-diet-children-1.3581027

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Mitchco
Posted 5/14/2016 09:38 (#5300920 - in reply to #5300837)
Subject: RE: Where the heck did all these allergies come from?


SW OH
It comes from playing video games in a climate controlled environment.

As in not going outside and playing in the dirt, eating without washing your hands, being sneezed on by your best friend, eating worms, etc. Being exposed to the world on a daily unprotected basis builds immunity to it. Those who live in a sterilized plastic bubble can't handle what's outside of the bubble. I take it a little farther through hormesis.

Mitchco
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mac4440
Posted 5/14/2016 10:11 (#5300968 - in reply to #5300867)
Subject: RE: Where the heck did all these allergies come from?



I read somewhere that is a very, very small percent that actually are gluten intolerant.
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oldiowa
Posted 5/14/2016 10:32 (#5301002 - in reply to #5300867)
Subject: RE: Where the heck did all these allergies come from?


waterloo iowa
I have an aunt whose elderly husband was gluten intolerant,among several other medical problems, all of a sudden she and her kids from a previous marriage all had to be on gluten free diets.She is the kind that will eat a lettuce salad because it is healthy but put big globs of dressing on it for taste then wonder why she has stomach problems
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jdk
Posted 5/14/2016 10:37 (#5301006 - in reply to #5300837)
Subject: RE: Where the heck did all these allergies come from?


I saw this post and was hoping it wouldn't go the way it is. I'm a father of a 17 month old son that has been diagnosed with a peanut and egg allergy. First we didn't isolate him and have him inside all the time, he grew up just like I did outside on the farm playing and enjoying it. He actually still loves being outside playing better than inside. My wife, myself, and all of our family members have never been diagnosed with a food allergy, which is what makes this puzzling. To your point the food allergies have increased and nobody from research or common sense has any idea why. So I understand everybody thinks it is fake, just a little problem, or we didn't expose him to things. I spent a night in the hospital ER after giving my son some peanut butter French toast, because he was having issues breathing, hives on his body, and trying to scratch his tongue out of his mouth. This was all after having about 2 bites of it. It is a mind opening experience.

Our only line of defense to keep our son safe is strict avoidance of the allergin! So we now need to read every label and make sure that it doesn't contain either egg or peanuts. We also need to call every manufacturer to see the manufacturing process to make sure food items aren't made on common lines with these 2 allergins for him to avoid cross contamination. So I would ask for people to understand it is a serious issue, and we are just trying to keep our kids safe. Like with everything people can take it to far, because we can't keep him away from everything and he needs to understand that. One reason some people do take it that far is people don't take it seriously, because once he has ingested the allergin he can't get away from it, all he can do is have his body work it through.

The next time you buy something I would ask you to look at the label, see if it contains peanuts, or eggs. Then see if it has a may contains statement on it to see for possible cross contamination of these 2 products. If it doesn't have a may contains label (which isn't required) then call the manufacturer to see if it has been on a common line as those 2 allergins. This is what we need to do with ALL the food that comes into our house. Also help educate your kids and grand kids about this, and treat these kids the same but also help them so they stay safe. If a person takes a few of these simple steps, and takes it seriously it will help the kids and parents out.
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Supa Dexta
Posted 5/14/2016 10:43 (#5301017 - in reply to #5300837)
Subject: RE: Where the heck did all these allergies come from?



NS Canada
I was born with a milk allergy. But nowadays drink a gallon every few days.
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fishand run
Posted 5/14/2016 11:34 (#5301094 - in reply to #5300837)
Subject: RE: Where the heck did all these allergies come from?


Bloomington and Putnam IL
Wife and I were farm kids with no serious allergies on either side. Daughter had a butter finger blizzard at 18 months and almost died from the peanuts (wife is a MD and was taking a nap after we got home from DQ, I'm glad I woke her up when our daughters throat was closing). 20 years ago I'm sure she would have died.
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Wayne A
Posted 5/14/2016 11:49 (#5301120 - in reply to #5300920)
Subject: RE: Where the heck did all these allergies come from?



Central In
I read where a very small exposure to peanuts regularly at a very young age conditioned youngsters to peanuts. I believe that I have got this right.

Being conditioned ahead of time helps the body to be ready to handle many of these things.
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Fayette Farmer
Posted 5/14/2016 12:08 (#5301168 - in reply to #5301120)
Subject: RE: Where the heck did all these allergies come from?



Southwest Central, Ohio
It seems like most( but not all) small kids to teens will overprotective parents that have problems with allergies ,when they get in there 20s and out in the real world , with friends or a date don't seem to have any problems with allergies . Funny how that works.
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OntarioCanuck
Posted 5/14/2016 12:13 (#5301172 - in reply to #5301006)
Subject: RE: Where the heck did all these allergies come from?


North of London
My post was not intended to say there are no real allergies but rather to point out the self diagnosing people do that are incorrect especially with things like gluten which causes problems in a small % of population while many more people self diagnose and then cause real harm because of the poor nutrition that results from their self diagnosis.

While not life threatening we have a daughter that suffers from allergies caused by some pollen and even cut grass.
It becomes a problem for her to maintain her own lawn especially at some times of the year, even being in the house when the grass is cut at times causes her distress.

There has been some work done on the increasing allergies indicating lack of exposure to other animals in childhood increases the chance of some allergies but don't think that is totally proven yet.
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nebfarmer
Posted 5/14/2016 12:15 (#5301175 - in reply to #5301168)
Subject: RE: Where the heck did all these allergies come from?


SE Nebraska, Near Misery and Cans Ass!
Fayette Farmer - 5/14/2016 12:08

It seems like most( but not all) small kids to teens will overprotective parents that have problems with allergies ,when they get in there 20s and out in the real world , with friends or a date don't seem to have any problems with allergies . Funny how that works.

Please read JDK's Reply above. It's real
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Fayette Farmer
Posted 5/14/2016 12:23 (#5301192 - in reply to #5301175)
Subject: RE: Where the heck did all these allergies come from?



Southwest Central, Ohio
I said " most not all" , not to condemn all ,just a observation I have made , I could be wrong , thought I was once , but was mistaken .
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jdk
Posted 5/14/2016 12:25 (#5301195 - in reply to #5301175)
Subject: RE: Where the heck did all these allergies come from?


Fayette Farmer, it is the attitude like yours that causes me to be overprotective of my son. I will tell you I haven't been overprotective in his first 17 months other than after the food allergy diagnosis, by an allergy and asthma doctor. When they grow older they can make sure to properly manage the situation on their own. Just like any other kid growing up. Right now he doesn't understand what could happen to him if he eats the wrong thing.
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jdk
Posted 5/14/2016 12:31 (#5301204 - in reply to #5301120)
Subject: RE: Where the heck did all these allergies come from?


Yes, that is one of the working theories right now. Maybe some things have been too clean at an early age. Kids haven't been accidentally exposed to help their body understand that it is a good protein. That is also one of studies that they are trying in research, small doses to help their body understand it is a good protein.
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Hilltop Husker
Posted 5/14/2016 12:39 (#5301226 - in reply to #5300837)
Subject: RE: Where the heck did all these allergies come from?


Northern Nebraska
Like you said childhood mortality rates were much higher just thirty years ago. Also almost every class had that one sickly kid who always had something wrong. Everyone just wrote them off as such.

I can get treatments and diagnoses at the hospital 50 miles away that 15-20 years ago a body would have needed a trip to Rochester Minnesota.
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nebfarmer
Posted 5/14/2016 13:06 (#5301280 - in reply to #5301192)
Subject: RE: Where the heck did all these allergies come from?


SE Nebraska, Near Misery and Cans Ass!
Fayette Farmer - 5/14/2016 12:23

I said " most not all" , not to condemn all ,just a observation I have made , I could be wrong , thought I was once , but was mistaken .

Boy you just can't help it can you?
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Gerald J.
Posted 5/14/2016 13:21 (#5301301 - in reply to #5301120)
Subject: RE: Where the heck did all these allergies come from?



They are also trying small exposures to peanuts as a cure for that allergy.

Gerald J.
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pointrow
Posted 5/14/2016 13:24 (#5301308 - in reply to #5300837)
Subject: RE: Where the heck did all these allergies come from?


Central Il Morton

If the theory of kids not being exposed to build up immunity were true then why have I gotten an allergy to cut grass and 24- d the older I get? Never  used to bother me at all.

pointrow 

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Wayne A
Posted 5/14/2016 14:02 (#5301355 - in reply to #5301308)
Subject: RE: Where the heck did all these allergies come from?



Central In
pointrow, I would guess in your case that your body has declined some in certain areas. As we get older, the body does tend to decline...ya know.

Also, we are bombarded with hundreds of chemicals anymore. The stink from herbicides can be terrible. Several days after burndown out in the field north of me, the wind switched and brought some smell to me. It was annoying if not harmful.
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Gordy
Posted 5/14/2016 18:33 (#5301698 - in reply to #5300920)
Subject: RE: Where the heck did all these allergies come from?



N E Iowa
If I apply 2-4-D and walk where the weeds have been sprayed, it makes the top of my feet itch and get a red rash. Didn't bother a few years ago.
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Von WC Ohio
Posted 5/14/2016 19:03 (#5301748 - in reply to #5300920)
Subject: RE: Where the heck did all these allergies come from?



Not to mention overuse of hand sanitizer every 5 seconds on kids for fear they might have dirty hands or be exposed to a germ.

If more kids were allowed to be like Pigpen once in a while there would be far less problems. I also get a kick out of people that act repelled by any little bit of dirt. There are a whole lot of people today who don't know anything about hard work and how filthy some jobs actually end up being. It's not the end of the world as they would have you believe just clean up, wash clothes, take a shower and go again tomorrow.

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hillfarmer
Posted 5/14/2016 19:35 (#5301803 - in reply to #5301006)
Subject: RE: Where the heck did all these allergies come from?



jdk - 5/14/2016 11:37

I saw this post and was hoping it wouldn't go the way it is. I'm a father of a 17 month old son that has been diagnosed with a peanut and egg allergy. First we didn't isolate him and have him inside all the time, he grew up just like I did outside on the farm playing and enjoying it. He actually still loves being outside playing better than inside. My wife, myself, and all of our family members have never been diagnosed with a food allergy, which is what makes this puzzling. To your point the food allergies have increased and nobody from research or common sense has any idea why. So I understand everybody thinks it is fake, just a little problem, or we didn't expose him to things. I spent a night in the hospital ER after giving my son some peanut butter French toast, because he was having issues breathing, hives on his body, and trying to scratch his tongue out of his mouth. This was all after having about 2 bites of it. It is a mind opening experience.

Our only line of defense to keep our son safe is strict avoidance of the allergin! So we now need to read every label and make sure that it doesn't contain either egg or peanuts. We also need to call every manufacturer to see the manufacturing process to make sure food items aren't made on common lines with these 2 allergins for him to avoid cross contamination. So I would ask for people to understand it is a serious issue, and we are just trying to keep our kids safe. Like with everything people can take it to far, because we can't keep him away from everything and he needs to understand that. One reason some people do take it that far is people don't take it seriously, because once he has ingested the allergin he can't get away from it, all he can do is have his body work it through.

The next time you buy something I would ask you to look at the label, see if it contains peanuts, or eggs. Then see if it has a may contains statement on it to see for possible cross contamination of these 2 products. If it doesn't have a may contains label (which isn't required) then call the manufacturer to see if it has been on a common line as those 2 allergins. This is what we need to do with ALL the food that comes into our house. Also help educate your kids and grand kids about this, and treat these kids the same but also help them so they stay safe. If a person takes a few of these simple steps, and takes it seriously it will help the kids and parents out.


With my son, if he gets a food that does not agree ,his first indication will be his heartbeat will go up,will get to 140 or higher ,

Some times toughing the food to his wrist will give a "test" THat is safer then having it in his stomach

he is on a 4 day rotation and every couple weeks something will go astray and we will have to get a replacement for him to eat
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Kooiker
Posted 5/14/2016 21:12 (#5301987 - in reply to #5301192)
Subject: RE: Where the heck did all these allergies come from?



Fayette Farmer - 5/14/2016 12:23 I said " most not all" , not to condemn all ,just a observation I have made , I could be wrong , thought I was once , but was mistaken .




That is pure awesome. 


My wife didn't think it was as great as I did though.



 

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School Of Hard Knock
Posted 5/14/2016 23:28 (#5302202 - in reply to #5300837)
Subject: RE: Where the heck did all these allergies come from?


Central ND
Im thinking that a lot of those kids will turn out to be allergic to work.That said, I do think that exposure makes people tolerant to allergens. But some never can be tolerated or overcome.
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pupdaddy12003
Posted 5/15/2016 17:50 (#5303394 - in reply to #5300968)
Subject: RE: Where the heck did all these allergies come from?



NW Central Ohio
..."gluten intolerant" is one thing. "Allergic to gluten" is another. We all may be a tiny bit "intolerant" of gluten....don't you fart now and then? I do..and so does everyone else. When someone has a allergic reaction to gluten, they get hives, throat constriction...and can die if not treated quickly. There aren't too many people who are going to die after eating a submarine sammich, or a stack of flapjacks. They may be uncomfortable for a while.....but that's about it.
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pupdaddy12003
Posted 5/15/2016 17:53 (#5303401 - in reply to #5301301)
Subject: RE: Where the heck did all these allergies come from?



NW Central Ohio
...I know a kid so allergic to peanuts...that he broke out in a reaction after his dog dug in the garden at the new house they move into, and found out the previous owners had tossed peanut shells in the garden.
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pupdaddy12003
Posted 5/15/2016 17:55 (#5303405 - in reply to #5301006)
Subject: RE: Where the heck did all these allergies come from?



NW Central Ohio
...Have you checked to see if your child is allergic to duck eggs? I have a friend who's child can't do chicken eggs...but duck eggs don't cause any reaction at all.....
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dairyman78
Posted 5/15/2016 19:26 (#5303526 - in reply to #5300837)
Subject: RE: Where the heck did all these allergies come from?


S.C. Wisconsin
Good read.

http://www.theverge.com/2015/9/3/9256955/allergies-asthma-farm-kids...
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bspf
Posted 5/15/2016 19:43 (#5303560 - in reply to #5303526)
Subject: RE: Where the heck did all these allergies come from?



N.E. Iowa
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Joe@RFDG
Posted 5/17/2016 22:15 (#5307525 - in reply to #5301308)
Subject: RE: Where the heck did all these allergies come from?


Glenwood, Mn
Chemical sensitivity is a real thing. I work with epoxies and polyurethane resins daily. The more you get exposed the likelier you are to have an adverse reaction. Everyone has a different threshold and every resin system is different.

http://westsystemcom1.site.mobi/site/ss/health-effects-from-overexp...
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hillfarmer
Posted 5/20/2016 04:25 (#5311078 - in reply to #5301204)
Subject: RE: Where the heck did all these allergies come from?



These guys have helped us a bunch

http://www.immunolabs.com/patients/

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