true to an extent, the thing that bothers me about such statements is the done and gone mentality, still get about 30% back from every bu. as ddgs, and 20 billion lbs of oil.   so net disappearance related to ethanol is at 3 billion bu which is still a big number.    but if we were still at the 6 billion bu crop that we raised pre ethanol, there'd been some real problems.