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Posted 12/1/2015 20:34 (#4932390 - in reply to #4931166)
Subject: RE: Skid steers and Emmissions


durallymax - 12/1/2015 09:03

bobbyg - 11/30/2015 21:06

I need a medium/small one. Diesel. Preferably JD or CAT. What years do the Emissions equip. start on them? In other words, how old do I have to go to be pre-emissions?


Any Cat before the "D" series will be "pre-emissions".

That said, I wouldn't be afraid of one with it. The D series are the nicest machines they have ever made. The DPF has not been an issue on them at all. Over 1k on our 262D and running great. Talking with the service writer (that's a no BS guy) he's been surprised by the lack of issues with the couple hundred they have out.

Use a D series for awhile, forget there's a DPF on it and pay attention to the rest of it. No way I'd want any of the older ones over a D just because there's a DPF on it and people still don't think manufacturers have them figured out after all of these years. FWIW it is a serviceable, active DPF. If for some reason it doesn't stay clean passively it will actively regenerate, there's a little indicator when it wants to do that and you simply keep the throttle above half and keep running. Ours never has, service guy said very few people ever have.

Don't let one little thing let you miss out on all of the benefits. Would you trade a quiet clean cab with HVAC that always works, just because of a DPF? Would you trade having all of the hydraulics out of the slop in the belly, just because of a DPF? Or the better visibility(you can actually see the plate) and backup camera? Or the sealed engine compartment that actually stays clean? The quiet Kubota engine versus the Mitsupillar(still a good motor)? I could go on about why the D series are better, but the list is not short and you have to have experience with the older ones to appreciate a lot of the subtle details.
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X1000.......... The D has many improvements over the C model which was greatly improved over the B series. Currently have 289c with 1800hrs and 289d with around 700hrs on it and the cab on the d is remarkable, espically for bigger guy like me. Along with some other things we like, that being said our D model with derated engine and supposedly with higher pump flow to make up for hp is not near the machine power wise that the c model is. Have had zero problems with c and just couple little electrical issues with d. My opinion overall is you can't beat the cat for visibility of your cutting edge which is most important thing for us.
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