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HeyhayJCM
Posted 12/1/2015 10:46 (#4931231 - in reply to #4931199)
Subject: RE: Skid steers and Emmissions


central ohio..between Springville and Millbrook.
durallymax - 12/1/2015 10:27

HeyhayJCM - 12/1/2015 09:56

durallymax - 12/1/2015 09:51

HeyhayJCM - 12/1/2015 05:39

I think it also has something to do with horsepower rating on the machine. We lease Cat skid loaders and when one of ours (a 242 B) was ending a couple weeks ago we got a 272 on demo. It had Def and regeneration because the salesman said it was over 100 horsepower. The 242 machines still come without it.

Not sure if all other manufacturers are the same??

Josh Moorefield


50-74hp has different standards than 75-175hp.

236D,242D,246D,262D all come with the 73hp 3.3L Kubota that has EGR and a DPF. 272D & 272D XHP have a 3.8L Kubota with a DPF (I believe EGR as well). 272D2 & 272D2 XHP have DEF as well.



When did they start making the D Series vs the B Series??

Josh Moorefield


The big D series machines with the 3.8 came in 2012. That would be the 272D, 297D, 299D and their XHP variants. These replaced the C series versions. At the same time, the 256C, 262C, 277C, 279C, 287C and 289C were all derated to 74hp and labeled as "C2".

In addition to the "C2" models above, the 236B3, 242B3, 257B3, 259B3, and 246C also used the 74hp 3.4 Mitsubishi. Production of these machines ended in 2013 for them to be replaced with the "D" series machines that all have the 74hp 3.3L Kubota engine. All of the models were retained except the 256.

One year later, production of the 216B3, 226B3 and 247B3 (which use a 2.2 Perkins) was ended. The new D series lineup for small machines has changed a lot, and they use an updated 2.2 Perkins. The 216 and 247 were dropped. They brought back the 232 and added a 239 and 249. The final lineup is 226D, 232D, 239D and 249D.

Not long after that, production of the largest D series machines was switched to the newer D2 machines which keep the 3.8 Kubota with the addition of DEF for Tier4F. This would be the 272D2, 297D2, 299D2 and their XHP counterparts.



It can be tough to keep up with it all, but it's back to a streamlined product line again at least.


Ok this is making sense now. Ours are 242B-3's then. When I realized I didn't like the 272 he said he could still get us another new 242B-3...and said there were a huge amount of them that were produced for the rental fleets? I hope he's right!
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