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NW KS/ SC ID | we have a few. price is the main selling point. ;) all of ours are straight tail, 14K GVWR. 3 bumper pulls, 1 goose. 3 deckovers, 1 carhauler style.
our 02 20ft deckover BPis kind of a POS. the tounge where it bends is a joke, structurally it has been fine, but I wouldnt trust it at maximum GVWR, as they hack out a portion of the top beam of the ibeam, then try to reweld it together, no plating on the top of the beam. On ours, all there is is slag, ground smooth, and cracked. The jack dropleg pin is right under the basket, a real pain to pull. out the side would have been tons easier.The safety chains were held to the frame by soft rod, and when the trailer came uncoupled (dont ask :) ) it was empty, and the safety chains tore out the soft rod. last time I checked, safety chains should at least hold a half loaded trailer, and should really hold a fully loaded trailer. (Dad has since welded a piece of boxbeam under the front of the tongue, and strung the chain through it.) lots of "crudeness" about it. It is still automotive style paint and incandescent lighting.
our 07 25ft deckover goose is also kind of a POS. the one main beam in the neck isnt even welded square to the ajoining beam, so the trailer sits crooked while empty (right jack touches an inch or two before the other when you unhook) the powdercoat is peeling off in sheets. still incandescent lighting. by 07 they went to the tubular outer beam (a huge plus IMO, very good idea, much stronger, sheds road slop better, shields wiring, looks nicer, might weigh less) and the latch for the chain box doesnt collect rain water (prior goosenecks had the latch in the lid, and it funneled rain water) it also has a rear reciver hitch, which has come in handy many times, and on a goose, is completely legal. no light connector though, IMO if there is a receiver, there should be a light connector.
our 09 26ft deckover bumper pull is the flagship, enough so I got pretty mad when the tongue got bumped by the framerails of the one flatbed 2 ton flatbed truck when turning sharp (put two dings in the Ibeam, no bends, just cosmetic) everything they got wrong on the 02, they fixed on this. forged safety chain links welded to frame, fishplating at the tongue bend, dual jacks, tubular outer rail, better wiring, etc. unfortunately powder coated, but has LED lighting. we have kpet this on off gravel roads and road salt, and the powdercoating is doing good.
our '11 24ft cartrailer bumper pull is also the same review as the 09, no real complaints, many improvements over the older ones.
all of them have Quality brand axles, which are anything but. import everything, flex badly on turns, scrubbing tires, and I am good about taking wide swooping turns at all times, no cramping around ever (big pet peeve of mine, trailers are NOT zero turn mowers) import wheels, tires, etc. very out of balance, the 02 has some obviously off center hub machining as the wheel runs true, but the casting goes up and down. :)
I have heard (and IIRC its even stated on the website) that some sub-assembly is done south of the border in Mexico. not a big deal, but IMO I would rather pay for all american welds.
a friend of ours, whom I worked for in college, had a 2010? PJ 32ft tandem dually gooseneck with a dovetail, low profile. it replaced an 08 or so low profile, when PJ first tried the low pro concept. the first one was a complete failure, scrubbed tires, drug tail, overall very crude and not fully engineered, so he sold it alot sooner than he thought he would This 2010 or 2011 he had later he (and I) loved. everything was perfect, it never dug the tires into the deck, tail rarely drug (they went to geometry class on that tail, thats for sure, worked awesome for dragging dead tractors up on it) the toolbox is like our 07, very deep and the latch is made right. the only complaints were the ****ty Quality brand axles (which according to the PJ website, in the tandem dually trailer realm, you can option Dexters. our buddy's ****ty dealer never gave (or knew of) that option) and the poorly thought out license plate location, as his is dented up as well.
he replaced it with a Circle M, (he puts alot of miles on, and trades so he doesnt have to do tires and brakes) and will be trading again soon, as it isnt nearly as well thought out as the PJ.
So that is our long winded review of our personal and our friends' PJ products! :)
No matter the brand, if you are in the market for a tandem dually, I HIGHLY suggest getting the low pro, its lower, which translates to a much safer tow (lower center of gravity) easier loading, safer handling for the tow rig, less wind drag for safety and fuel economy, etc.
Have you considered a Load Trail? I have no experience with their goosenecks, (we have a small car trailer made by the same company) but I really like the looks of their goosenecks by touring the website: air ride is an option, and I like the all USA built trailer, and USA made LED lighting. Dexter Axles are also standard. http://www.loadtrail.com/detail.cfm?model=GP24&desc=Gooseneck%20Low...
For us personally, we are looking hard at a 30 foot single tire straight tail gooseneck from Kaufman. I saw a hotshotter with one at a truckstop, and it was a good looking unit. Kaufman has two different grades of trailer, a more economy minded line, and a premium/heavy duty/professional line with better wiring and lights, more stake pockets, tighter crossmember spacing, etc.
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PJ trailers, how do they rate for quality?
