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tedbear
Posted 1/6/2014 16:23 (#3580081 - in reply to #3579158)
Subject: RE: Raven 440 to Integra


Near Intersection of I-35 & I-90 Southern Mn.
NEILFarmer - 1/6/2014 10:18

What is the best way to get an Integra to map data based on what a Raven 440 is doing? This would be a situation where 440 will be used for sidedress NH3 and Spraying in same tractor. I was looking around on agleaders knowledge base site and looks like their are few different option, serial control and just data logging. The serial control looks the easiest i think, not really sure. But the way they draw it out i would just need the 4000309-6 and 4000318-3 to go along with the app rate module i already have. http://dealer.agleader.com/kbp/index.php?View=afile&CategoryID=704&... In that situation i would leave everything in tractor when switching implements. Hook up the right implement, change the 440 settings and whatever is needed on Integra. Just wondering if this sounds right and how exactly that works when setup this way? Do i change rates on Integra or Raven? Do i still use the 440 for valve shutoff? Will it map correctly when i bring map into SMS? Do i still feed Raven radar speed or will it get GPS from Integra which also happens to be getting GPS from a FM750 on RTX. I know direct command would work better for this but just not wanting to spend that kind of money right now, sprayer will probably change next year and NH3 might as well. Thanks in advance guys.


1) Since you already have the App Rate Module, you can certainly use it. The 40000309-6 is correct for a Raven. This assumes that your Raven 440 is new enough that you have the 9 pin serial plug on the back of the 440. You likely have the CAN stub cable 4000318-3 or a longer equivalent. All CAN stub cables are identical except for length. This cable allows communication in both directions between the Raven and the Integra.

2) you create a configuration in the Integra telling it that you will be using it with a Raven 440. This configuration on the Integra will stay with it so you wouldn't need to redo it each year. On the Raven you would need to have four items set correctly. I don't remember the exact order but they are BAUD - 9600, Trigger - 1, Unit - Seconds and Data Logger - ON. These items should stay set on the Raven unless the Raven is reset from scratch.

3) Generally you enter the rate on the Integra. It will send this rate to the Raven Rate 1 register, the Raven will beep four times unless you have turned this alarm OFF, this new value should show on the Raven if you are looking at Rate 1. You should check this when you set it up before going to the field. If changing the rate on the Integra causes four beeps on the Raven and the new number appears in Rate 1 then communication from the Integra to the Raven is good. Otherwise something is wrong.

4) With the rate switch on the Raven set to Rate 1, the Raven will try to match that rate. If you switch the rate switch on the Raven to Rate 2, then the target rate will be whatever has been typed into the Raven by hand. If the Raven switch is set to MANual then the rate will not be speed compensated. In other words the only change from what you are used to is that the Integra changes the value in Rate 1 rather than you doing it with your fingers.

5) You will still use the Master switch (or remote) as usual. The mapping on the Integra will be correct if communication from the Raven to the Integra is established. To check this you can flip the Master switch on the Raven ON/OFF. The width displayed on the Integra should change from the width of the implement to zero. If this works this way then communication is working properly from the Raven to the Integra. Check this too before going to the field. The Raven must get speed through its 3 pin speed connector as usual. This could be from a real radar gun, GPS speed or other sources. This is a must.

6) you could chuck the 440 and use Direct Command. This would involve an Ag leader switchbox and Auxiliary Input module or the switchbox that includes the Auxiliary module as well as the Liquid Module along with some wiring. The first solution would certainly be the cheapest especially since you already have the module. With Direct Command you could have auto section shutoff which is not possible with the App Rate module approach.

7) Given your situation this is the route that I would recommend. If later you decide to switch to Direct Command you are really not out much. In fact I have one of those serial cables in my box of goodies which I haven't used for a few years. I continue to use my App Rate module to monitor a flowmeter for starter on the planter. I used to move it to another tractor for logging manure controlled by a 450 like you desire but haven't done that lately.

Edited by tedbear 1/6/2014 16:29
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