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Posted 4/16/2013 20:32 (#3040591 - in reply to #3040037)
Subject: Re: It was not the Chinese, it was the Canadians!

denny-o - 4/16/2013 15:54

Hmmm... One of the things I had to learn well many decades ago was how to read/understand the statistical significance of results in 'field trials' of drugs in humans.
The data table posted by TCG does not have even one number variance that is statistically significant.
(Great explanation here - warning, requires thinking) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statistical_significance

Now, let's ask if the difference for P, between P = 0.222 and P = 0.234 being significant - of course not. Your gut will never have a problem absorbing either amount of P and the nutritional value difference (known as the delta - a triangle symbol) is untestable and unmeasurable.
If they pay you a premium for non gmo beans - fantastic, take the money and run.
If they start offering a premium for dandelions over corn, I'm gonna be rich.

cheers

First, you can't come to the conclusion that these aren't significant results without at least knowing the number of samples, which isn't listed on the table. Second, the article you linked to does not support your statement regarding the table.

Third, the increases/decreases are relative. The difference between .222 and .234 is a 5% increase. Just because the raw numbers are tiny doesn't mean the increases/decreases aren't significant. Again, no way to tell from the results table - one would need to look into the raw data.

Fourth, note I made no claims about the significance of the results in the table. To quibble about whether the numbers are significant or not misses the point...

I simply posted it to show what an actual **real** comparison of grain samples looked like. Let's not forget, the original claim here was based on a completely fictitious claim - using a **SOIL TEST** and passing it off as grain nutrient content comparisons.

Those of you who are worried whether or not the results are really significant can simply email Dr. Below at the U of IL and ask him for the data. At least we know who did the research and his claims/data can be checked - unlike the nonsense that started this thread.

It was not the Chinese, it was the Canadians! - Chimel : 4/15/2013 23:33
- RE: It was not the Chinese, it was the Canadians! - dschill : 4/16/2013 06:59
- RE: It was not the Chinese, it was the Canadians! - pilgrim : 4/16/2013 07:32
- RE: It was not the Chinese, it was the Canadians! - twraska : 4/16/2013 08:14
  - RE: It was not the Chinese, it was the Canadians! - Chimel : 4/16/2013 12:29
- RE: It was not the Chinese, it was the Canadians! - TCG : 4/16/2013 08:31
  - Re: It was not the Chinese, it was the Canadians! - paul the original : 4/16/2013 09:19
    - Re: It was not the Chinese, it was the Canadians! - Dave Seck : 4/16/2013 09:27
      - Re: It was not the Chinese, it was the Canadians! - Dave Seck : 4/16/2013 09:31
        
        Re: It was not the Chinese, it was the Canadians! - TCG : 4/16/2013 09:34
        
        Re: It was not the Chinese, it was the Canadians! - Dave Seck : 4/16/2013 09:37
        
        Re: It was not the Chinese, it was the Canadians! - pilgrim : 4/16/2013 09:43
        
        Re: It was not the Chinese, it was the Canadians! - Dave Seck : 4/16/2013 09:46
        
        Re: It was not the Chinese, it was the Canadians! - pilgrim : 4/16/2013 09:54
        
        Re: It was not the Chinese, it was the Canadians! - Dave Seck : 4/16/2013 12:36
        
        Re: It was not the Chinese, it was the Canadians! - TCG : 4/16/2013 09:59
        
        Re: It was not the Chinese, it was the Canadians! - pilgrim : 4/16/2013 12:08
      - Re: It was not the Chinese, it was the Canadians! - paul the original : 4/16/2013 09:38
        
        Re: It was not the Chinese, it was the Canadians! - Dave Seck : 4/16/2013 09:43
        
        Re: It was not the Chinese, it was the Canadians! - paul the original : 4/16/2013 09:49
    - Re: It was not the Chinese, it was the Canadians! - TCG : 4/16/2013 09:30
      - Re: It was not the Chinese, it was the Canadians! - aray63 : 4/16/2013 11:26
        
        Re: It was not the Chinese, it was the Canadians! - paul the original : 4/16/2013 12:14
- More misinformation - Dave Seck : 4/16/2013 09:22
  - RE: More misinformation - pilgrim : 4/16/2013 09:38
    - RE: More misinformation - Dave Seck : 4/16/2013 09:49
      - RE: More misinformation - pilgrim : 4/16/2013 09:55
        
        RE: More misinformation - Dave Seck : 4/16/2013 13:59
        
        RE: More misinformation - pilgrim : 4/16/2013 18:02
        
        RE: More misinformation - Dave Seck : 4/16/2013 21:53
        
        RE: More misinformation - pilgrim : 4/16/2013 22:37
        
        RE: More misinformation - Dave Seck : 4/16/2013 23:38
        
        RE: More misinformation - Dave Seck : 4/16/2013 22:19
        
        RE: More misinformation - pilgrim : 4/16/2013 22:39
        
        RE: More misinformation - Dave Seck : 4/16/2013 23:36
        
        RE: More misinformation - Ron..NE ILL..10/48 : 4/17/2013 05:48
        
        RE: More misinformation - pilgrim : 4/17/2013 08:04
        
        RE: More misinformation - TCG : 4/17/2013 08:43
        
        Monsanto doing there own research - pilgrim : 4/17/2013 08:58
        
        RE: Monsanto doing there own research - TCG : 4/17/2013 09:02
        
        RE: Monsanto doing there own research - pilgrim : 4/17/2013 10:01
        
        RE: Monsanto doing there own research - Dave Seck : 4/17/2013 20:00
    - Re: It was not the Chinese, it was the Canadians! - paul the original : 4/16/2013 09:53
      - Re: It was not the Chinese, it was the Canadians! - pilgrim : 4/16/2013 12:49
        
        Re: It was not the Chinese, it was the Canadians! - paul the original : 4/16/2013 14:11
        
        Re: It was not the Chinese, it was the Canadians! - pilgrim : 4/16/2013 17:57
  - RE: More misinformation - DaleK : 4/16/2013 12:37
- Re: It was not the Chinese, it was the Canadians! - lawfarms : 4/16/2013 16:26
- Re: It was not the Chinese, it was the Canadians! - denny-o : 4/16/2013 16:54
  - Re: Can they make car gas out of dandys.?nt - hyseed : 4/16/2013 16:55
  - Re: It was not the Chinese, it was the Canadians! - TCG : 4/16/2013 20:32
    - Re: It was not the Chinese, it was the Canadians! - lars-PA : 4/17/2013 07:39
      - Re: It was not the Chinese, it was the Canadians! - TCG : 4/17/2013 07:58
- RE: Why not put good food in ur body. - hyseed : 4/16/2013 16:54
- Re: It was not the Chinese, it was the Canadians! - denny-o : 4/16/2013 16:57
- Re: It was not the Chinese, it was the Canadians! - denny-o : 4/16/2013 16:59

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