Wi | rednyellow - 4/11/2013 20:37 We own an AGCO one and I would say its far from the easiest to operate.
Thats because you have an Agco. They tried making their tractors so you could "jump in and run" because people didn't want to take a day to learn the Fendt and get comfortable. The Agco is simple less intimidating, it is a PITA to operate compared to the Fendt.
fhb - 4/11/2013 21:04 I have a Fendt and have compared it in limited fashion to JD, NH and CIH and MF (agco). I'm not sure how much simpler and easier you can get with the Fendt CVT operation. I prefer it over the MF (Agco) and of course the others IMHO.
x2. The Fendt will take the longest to learn, however I see no need for being able to "jump in and run" a tractor anymore. There are so many settings and features people need to be aware of, it really takes an entire day of learning them to get a feel for which on is best.
I have ran the Deere IVT in a 7830, CNH CVT in a 225 mini mag, Agco in older DTa's and in the newer DTbs and 8600s, as well as the Fendts in the older and newer models. If I had to pick on to live with it would be the Fendt.
Deere and CNH give you the "hydro" feeling which I do not care for but many people find it easier. I find it less than desireable. Most of the work we do involves a lot of roading, so I prefer operating in pedal mode with TMS, I found the others offerings in those categories to be poor. The Agco/MF in pedal mode is fine, but the joystick is what sets it apart. Even when in pedal mode, being able to have the preset cruises at your finger tip ready for selection then just a simple flick of the lever to resume. The Agco is very finnicky at engagin preset cruises and setting them is not as nice due to having to go through the Dot matrix display and making sure you are in all of the right places. The Fendt also just allows you to set your cruise at the current speed. I miss that everytime I'm in an Agco/MF. Makes all kinds of fieldwork much more desireable when you can just set it without having to actually scroll through parameters to adjust what you predict will be the speed you want. The shuttle on the stick is nice too. Your hand is there already so it's just an added convieniance. The feature I probably like most through for hauling manure or hauling silage, is the thumb control for sensitivity. The Agco/MF is a PITA to adjust this, you basically have to set it and forget it. With the Fendt you just flick it up for on the road since you want instant response, and then dial it back down for running next to the chopper and such to allow smoother more precise control.
I'd pick Fendt, but there are many more reasons than simple CVT operation. Simple to me is different than simple to many. You have to be willing to think outside the box to run the Fendt. if you want to just set your throttle and drive like its a hydro then buy a Deere or CNH. I know people who insist on running their CVT's in "powershift"mode. kind of defeats the purpose but oh well. |