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Dave Seck

Posted 4/11/2013 21:06 (#3029043 - in reply to #3028703)
Subject: RE: Fair Statement Dave

SC Kansas - Hutchinson

Ed

I will try to answer your questions

1. How many times have we read here the refuge outyielded the traited corn?

Many times. However, on our farm our experience has been different. One year the refuge within the circle yielded 40ish bu/ac less than the Bt corn. We were stunned. So we plant as much Bt corn as is allowed.

2. Why in the world would plant traited corn?

On our farm many times we used to have corn sawed off at the ground from southwestern corn borers. It could be so bad that areas were unharvestable.
Earworm protection from pro and viptera genetics. It stops earworm on our farm which also leads to less risk of alfatoxin
Reduced risk from drought via droughtgard corn

Realize Ed, I have no problem with people planting non-gmo corn. I have a problem when someone tells me I should be planting only non-gmo corn and that someone has no frame of reference.

3. If you are using insecticide, why in the world would you pay the extra money for traited rootworm corn?

We do not have rootworm problems in our area so I have no answer. I would bet that they are unable to have complete control with insecticide or rootworm Bt and the combination is the least risky.

4. why glyphosate was found in non GMO corn in bins? In manure?

I do not know. However finding it and it being a problem are two different things.

Realize Ed that many farmers are using these tools to benefit their operations. Our farm is a prime example. My primary complaint is that your viewpoint (anti-gmo anti-roundup) by extension is that the american farmer is a poor steward of the land because of their use of gmo's and roundup. I hole-heartedly disagree with that viewpoint

just for kicks, had hog manure tested for glyphosate - maxflex540 : 4/10/2013 20:06
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    - Re: just for kicks, had hog manure tested for glyphosate - braunt01 : 4/11/2013 07:44
      - Re: just for kicks, had hog manure tested for glyphosate - bigmiker : 4/11/2013 17:18
- Re: just for kicks, had hog manure tested for glyphosate - benerdman : 4/10/2013 21:08
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  - Re: just for kicks, had hog manure tested for glyphosate - ehoff : 4/10/2013 21:45
    - Re: just for kicks, had hog manure tested for glyphosate - Kooiker : 4/10/2013 22:21
      - Re: just for kicks, had hog manure tested for glyphosate - jonfrahm : 4/10/2013 22:33
        
        Re: just for kicks, had hog manure tested for glyphosate - ehoff : 4/10/2013 22:39
        
        Re: just for kicks, had hog manure tested for glyphosate - Foliardud : 4/10/2013 23:04
      - I don't think that is going to work - Ed Winkle : 4/11/2013 08:49
        
        RE: I don't think that is going to work - Kooiker : 4/11/2013 09:17
      - Re: just for kicks, had hog manure tested for glyphosate - hyseed : 4/11/2013 10:50
        
        Re: just for kicks, had hog manure tested for glyphosate - Chavez : 4/11/2013 12:41
        
        Re: Healthy organic? - Gerald J. : 4/11/2013 13:52
        
        Re: Healthy organic? - Chimel : 4/11/2013 14:40
        
        Re:In the US, but - Gerald J. : 4/11/2013 16:46
        
        Re: It tastes better, yes indeed,whats ur body worth to u, organic all the way.nt - Chavez : 4/12/2013 16:18
        
        Re: It tastes better, yes indeed,whats ur body worth to u, organic all the way.nt - Hay Wilson in TX : 5/17/2013 09:04
        
        Re: just for kicks, had hog manure tested for glyphosate - Kooiker : 4/11/2013 21:08
      - Re: just for kicks, had hog manure tested for glyphosate - Chimel : 4/11/2013 10:57
        
        Re: just for kicks, had hog manure tested for glyphosate - Kooiker : 4/11/2013 21:06
- Re: just for kicks, had hog manure tested for glyphosate - Foliardud : 4/10/2013 23:08
- Re: just for kicks, had hog manure tested for glyphosate - Chimel : 4/11/2013 01:09
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  - Re: just for kicks, had hog manure tested for glyphosate - Ed Winkle : 4/11/2013 08:57
    - Re: just for kicks, had hog manure tested for glyphosate - Kooiker : 4/11/2013 09:39
    - Re: just for kicks, had hog manure tested for glyphosate - Dave Seck : 4/11/2013 09:52
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      - Re: just for kicks, had hog manure tested for glyphosate - Dave Seck : 4/11/2013 10:43
        
        Re: just for kicks, had hog manure tested for glyphosate - ehoff : 4/11/2013 12:49
        
        Re: just for kicks, had hog manure tested for glyphosate - Dave Seck : 4/11/2013 13:03
        
        Re: just for kicks, had hog manure tested for glyphosate - pilgrim : 4/11/2013 15:31
        
        Re: just for kicks, had hog manure tested for glyphosate - Dave Seck : 4/11/2013 15:58
        
        Re: just for kicks, had hog manure tested for glyphosate - pilgrim : 4/11/2013 16:06
        
        Re: just for kicks, had hog manure tested for glyphosate - bigmiker : 4/11/2013 17:14
        
        Re: just for kicks, had hog manure tested for glyphosate - pilgrim : 4/11/2013 17:38
        
        Re: just for kicks, had hog manure tested for glyphosate - Dave Seck : 4/11/2013 16:18
        
        Re: just for kicks, had hog manure tested for glyphosate - mounder : 4/11/2013 16:29
        Re: just for kicks, had hog manure tested for glyphosate - Chimel : 4/11/2013 17:24
        
        Re: just for kicks, had hog manure tested for glyphosate - Dave Seck : 4/11/2013 18:01
        Re: just for kicks, had hog manure tested for glyphosate - Ed Winkle : 4/11/2013 19:20
        
        Fair Statement Dave - Ed Winkle : 4/11/2013 19:16
        
        RE: Fair Statement Dave - Dave Seck : 4/11/2013 21:06
        
        Good response - Ed Winkle : 4/12/2013 08:24
        
        RE: Fair Statement Dave - NE Ridger : 4/11/2013 23:25
        
        Re: just for kicks, had hog manure tested for glyphosate - Ed Winkle : 4/12/2013 08:27
        
        Re: just for kicks, had hog manure tested for glyphosate - neukm : 4/11/2013 17:46
        
        Re: just for kicks, had hog manure tested for glyphosate - pilgrim : 4/11/2013 17:59
        
        Re: just for kicks, had hog manure tested for glyphosate - neukm : 4/11/2013 19:25
      - Re: just for kicks, had hog manure tested for glyphosate - Ed Winkle : 4/11/2013 13:50
        
        Re: just for kicks, had hog manure tested for glyphosate - Dave Seck : 4/11/2013 15:15
        
        Re: just for kicks, had hog manure tested for glyphosate - pilgrim : 4/11/2013 16:13
        
        Re: just for kicks, had hog manure tested for glyphosate - mounder : 4/11/2013 15:24
        
        Re: just for kicks, had hog manure tested for glyphosate - Ed Winkle : 4/11/2013 19:03
        
        Re: just for kicks, had hog manure tested for glyphosate - mounder : 4/11/2013 21:26
        
        Re: just for kicks, had hog manure tested for glyphosate - Ed Winkle : 4/12/2013 08:37
    - Re: just for kicks, had hog manure tested for glyphosate - Chimel : 4/11/2013 12:34
    - Re: just for kicks, had hog manure tested for glyphosate - TCG : 4/11/2013 18:29
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        Re: just for kicks, had hog manure tested for glyphosate - TCG : 4/12/2013 07:44
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  - Re: just for kicks, had hog manure tested for glyphosate - hillfarmer : 4/11/2013 08:33
  - Re: just for kicks, had hog manure tested for glyphosate - maxflex540 : 4/11/2013 09:27
- So what if that was non GMO corn? - Ed Winkle : 4/11/2013 08:45
- Re: just for kicks, had hog manure tested for glyphosate - Iowa Quality Hay : 4/11/2013 08:57
  - .05 - Ed Winkle : 4/11/2013 13:51
- RE: just for kicks, had hog manure tested for glyphosate - pilgrim : 4/11/2013 10:00
  - yes, Columbia Labs. NT - maxflex540 : 4/11/2013 12:00
- RE: just for kicks, had hog manure tested for glyphosate - Ks-notill : 4/11/2013 10:03
  - Re: just for kicks, had hog manure tested for glyphosate - maxflex540 : 4/11/2013 12:03
    - Re: just for kicks, had hog manure tested for glyphosate - Gerald J. : 4/11/2013 13:49
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- RE: just for kicks, had hog manure tested for glyphosate - workinonjunk : 4/11/2013 20:26
  - RE: just for kicks, had hog manure tested for glyphosate - CaptainAwesome : 4/11/2013 21:36
- Re: just for kicks, had hog manure tested for glyphosate - jrmac : 4/12/2013 17:45
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