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durallymax
Posted 3/25/2013 13:24 (#2990272 - in reply to #2990172)
Subject: RE: The whole meeting is Fake, they don't care what you think.


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The Pretender - 3/25/2013 11:30

Virginia Veg. - 3/25/2013 17:27 I At least offer a downgraded version for those of us who use hired/migrant labor.

I'm a "hired hand" and have to show The Management how to use "my" tractor. The electronics, generally speaking are very usefull when they have been designed properly. There are some "features" on the Masseys that still leave me stratching my head and are in one or two case slower to use than the manual lever, but generally they are brilliant to use. There are some problems with dodgy sensors and odd error codes popping up now and again. The manufacturers need to make these things more reliable, that is not to say the levers were not without their problems. They rattled and needed adjustment. I cannot tear a old powershift tractor to pieces and don;t have the skills to fix on, so not having the tech skills or equipment to fix a digital problem on a tractor is no different. The problem with error codes is that you never know what they mean and or how important they are, you just know something is not right.

I'll bet your migrant labour can use the latest mobile phone, which will have many more features on it than even a new Fendt. The difference if that the software engineers for phones are better at making it intuitive to use than the people that write tractor softwear. The job is getting more techincal all of the time. It sounds to me like the people that complain about "hire help" are basically hiring people not qualified for the job and just want somneone to drive up and down a field making it brown. If they can't operate a modern tractor can they relay what is happening to the crop back to you?

 



In order to stay competitive you can't always hire expensive help like other farms. I am sure what he is doing with vegatables takes a lot of operators at once, versus dirt farmers who just have one or two guys and their dad helping them.

I can teach any of our migrant workers how to run the Masseys. I can teach them to run the Fendts too.  I can also teach them to run the old magnums. The issue is that they are AB people. If you tell them to push this button or that button at a certain time, they will push this button or that button at that time.  They don't see or think about what else is going on that might affect their decision to push that button, but at the same time they are not expected to.  Kind of a get what you pay for situation. The old magnums are the best for migrant help, not many will argue that and if you watch any shows that tour a vegatable farm and such they always seem to have them.  The Fendt is easier to train than the Masseys. Why? Simple. The masseys do whatever they want when they want. They are not consistant and are poorly organized. They also have plenty of issues which adds to the frusteration.  In addition, the Massey controls are very easy to bump. Their console layout is piss poor. I have a lot of guys call me and ask why they can only go 15mph. Well their arm grazed the SV1/SV2 dials when they were doing something in the field.

Hi tech can work for less skilled help, it just needs to be laid out well and consistent. 

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