I asked Gary a question.  Joe and Gary answered it for me.  I asked it because there was 7500 loads difference when I thought that he was rebuilding his everyday feedwagon, not his spare.(that was my fault)   That 7500 loads would be a couple more years of feeding for a  smaller producer.  I asked to help people shopping for a wagon, but all of a sudden I guess I'm bashing Garvo.  If it came across that way Gary I'm sorry!  Garvo, we custom feed steers for Wendls, but I'm backgrounding my home raised calves so I will have 60 steers and 64 heifers and may finish them out but in seperate pens.   I would gladly stop in Carroll and grab beer to come over to smooth things out, but your busy and so am I right now.  Even though it sounds like we need to get some livestock so we don't have time to talk on agtalk at 5 in the morning.