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Gottlieb
Posted 11/30/2012 09:31 (#2724819)
Subject: moisture map of United States from Freese -Notis


water table must be worse now, ja.

anyone have an artesian well close-by to them... gottlieb

http://barchart.mobile.agricharts.com/weather/mapimage.php/4dypreus...

Edited by Gottlieb 11/30/2012 09:47
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Hawk
Posted 11/30/2012 09:58 (#2724859 - in reply to #2724819)
Subject: Re: moisture map of United States from Freese -Notis


NW IOWA
And this is in the cool off season. No crop growing to use moisture. Cooler temps so less evaporation.
No creeks or streams running. No tile lines running even the big county ones are bone dry.
Moisture situation way worse this year than last year at this time. Long time till planting time but very concerning situation.
Ja, ja, and ja!!!
I like that ja stuff!!

Edited by Hawk 11/30/2012 10:01
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Tara Farms
Posted 11/30/2012 13:11 (#2725072 - in reply to #2724859)
Subject: If as the Weather man beleive the Pinnapple express is open


Red River Valley
We might be lucky to have gone into winter dry.

These storms can carry a lot of precipt with them. and can repete every 4-5 days usually they don't get started until Jan thaw period but might keep us warm and wet this winter??

http://www.weather.com/news/weather-forecast/california-flood-threa...

Edited by Tara Farms 11/30/2012 13:12
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Sat
Posted 11/30/2012 13:45 (#2725113 - in reply to #2725072)
Subject: Re: moisture map of United States from Freese -Notis


Buxton ND
Tara been thinkin the same thing on those Cally storms. I used to rent a 1/4 from a guy that had a sister in California,she'd always tell him don't worry about a drought its raining in California and you'll get rain 3-4-5 months later but I cant remember the timing for sure.....

The BUZZ word in Ag seems to be the drought of 2013,,,, but whats gonna happen if we get it planted early,,,start getting rains,,, and we could answer John McGillicuddy question of whens the 15 bb corn crop coming really fast......
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rab1964
Posted 11/30/2012 14:07 (#2725137 - in reply to #2725113)
Subject: Re: moisture map of United States from Freese -Notis



You are seriously too funny.
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IALTO
Posted 11/30/2012 14:12 (#2725141 - in reply to #2725137)
Subject: Re: moisture map of United States from Freese -Notis


WC MN
So anything less than saying we will have back to back droughts is funny? Why are you so one sided?
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Sat
Posted 11/30/2012 14:25 (#2725161 - in reply to #2725141)
Subject: Re: moisture map of United States from Freese -Notis


Buxton ND
Rab that was a question from John McGillicuddy at a meeting a was at in Fargo ND of Tuesday.Another thing he said the corn belt has never had back to back drought 2years in a row.
As to why Rab is so one sided,,, I'd put a case of beer his bins are pretty full !!!!! And judging where he's at he had way more corn and beans then thought in August.

Edited by Sat 11/30/2012 14:26
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southernmnman
Posted 11/30/2012 14:30 (#2725167 - in reply to #2725072)
Subject: RE: If as the Weather man beleive the Pinnapple express is open


South central Minnesota
Yup the moisture tracks right through the heart of the corn belt, well if northern US, Canada border is now the heart! LOL !
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IALTO
Posted 11/30/2012 14:39 (#2725181 - in reply to #2725161)
Subject: Re: moisture map of United States from Freese -Notis


WC MN
Right on Sat. Heard same comments from McGillicuddy. Don't mean it will happen......but theres a chance
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rab1964
Posted 11/30/2012 16:36 (#2725269 - in reply to #2725167)
Subject: Re: moisture map of United States from Freese -Notis



No because I don't believe $4 corn is just around the corner like I have been told here since 2008. Bins are not full, have plenty of corn and beans, passed on 8.22 Tuesday. Still comfortable here. Corn was actually 4 bushel across the board less than my August 12th estimate, never had a clue on beans. But go ahead and tell me once again what I raised because I'm from IL where it's always awesome, wouldn't be the first ones on here to do that.
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Sat
Posted 11/30/2012 16:57 (#2725304 - in reply to #2725269)
Subject: Re: moisture map of United States from Freese -Notis


Buxton ND
In general Rab many yields where better then expected in much of the corn belt. I'm actually on a roll on my farm 2 years running over 150 bu corn,2 year running with NO Crop Ins. claims on ANY crop. You know its bad when you see your Crop Ins. Adjuster so often you feel the need to buy him a Christmas present !!!!!
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rab1964
Posted 11/30/2012 18:21 (#2725434 - in reply to #2725304)
Subject: Re: moisture map of United States from Freese -Notis



Better than expected of 20 bpa doesn't add much to the bottom line. I still do not think the corn crop is there that we are being told. Some good areas I understand, a hell of alot of disked down, mowed off at 7 mph with a corn head 0-100 bushel junk also. It's a long time till combines roll even in Texas, there will be demand for our corn. MO
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rab1964
Posted 11/30/2012 18:27 (#2725452 - in reply to #2725304)
Subject: Re: moisture map of United States from Freese -Notis



It also does not take 2 years of back to back drought to cause problems, maybe 2 years of less than projected. Do I hear 3??? 15 b corn crop can it happen, sure. I'll bet alot more that we don't see it than that case of beer SAT is going to bring over since I have 13 empty bins.
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Pofarmer
Posted 11/30/2012 19:57 (#2725642 - in reply to #2725161)
Subject: Re: moisture map of United States from Freese -Notis



Never?
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swne
Posted 11/30/2012 22:41 (#2725947 - in reply to #2725161)
Subject: Re: moisture map of United States from Freese -Notis


Cambridge, southwestern Nebraska
The US never had more than 2 years of below trendline yields.......until 2012. Records are made to be broken. It feels like a drought, looks like a drought, must be a drought.
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Markwright
Posted 11/30/2012 23:00 (#2725984 - in reply to #2725304)
Subject: Sat, where then is your local of the great crops? nt


New Mexico
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puff33m
Posted 11/30/2012 23:10 (#2726001 - in reply to #2725984)
Subject: RE: Sat, where then is your local of the great crops? nt


N FLA
Mark, did you see what Okie shared over in crop talk.



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Illinois Steve
Posted 12/1/2012 08:27 (#2726417 - in reply to #2725072)
Subject: OH COME ON TARA!


North Central Illinois
I'm usually in your corner regarding discussions on this board but this time I think your caboose has slipped off the track. Over 60% of the country is in serious drought. We have zero subsoil moisture in my area where by comparison a year ago we did have subsoil moisture. We raised a little better than half a crop this year despite intense heat and not a lot of rain. Our subsoil moisture carried the crop. We don't have that this year. I have never been one to kill off a crop five months before we plant it, but I have to admit I am worried about 2013. Obviously things can change fairly quick, but right now I see no indication of it. Above normal temps and well below normal precip seem to be the rule. I hope you are right but at this point I am very skeptical.
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feelnrite
Posted 12/1/2012 08:47 (#2726449 - in reply to #2726417)
Subject: Re: moisture map of United States from Freese -Notis


northwest tennessee
Yes this year is going to be different if things dont change. It will make last year look like a dream.
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swne
Posted 12/1/2012 09:48 (#2726564 - in reply to #2726449)
Subject: Re: moisture map of United States from Freese -Notis


Cambridge, southwestern Nebraska
+1. I see a worse situation around here. We have no subsoil moisture right now like we had last year. If we go into spring this way, little chance to have time to recharge.
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Markwright
Posted 12/1/2012 09:59 (#2726583 - in reply to #2726001)
Subject: Yes puff33m i noticed that. I will get a better look


New Mexico
Later today when I get by a computer w a decent screen.
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Markwright
Posted 12/1/2012 10:07 (#2726598 - in reply to #2726417)
Subject: I agree Steve. Recovery from our current


New Mexico
Situation even if everyone starts getting some h2o is likely to be spotty at best. plenty of areas need 5 to 10" of h2o to recover back to somewhat dry, then takes anothe 5 to 10" over summer for somewhat of a hopefully decent crop. deal is tight even w prayer looks 2 me like.
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puff33m
Posted 12/1/2012 10:56 (#2726697 - in reply to #2726583)
Subject: RE: Yes puff33m i noticed that. I will get a better look


N FLA
Yes, you mention a "big dry" potentially. I watched the "dust bowl" and they talked about the 1890s, 1930s, 1950s. This graph is a pretty good example. We need to be preparing that way anyhow.
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Markwright
Posted 12/1/2012 11:06 (#2726720 - in reply to #2726697)
Subject: No doubt we're in a Big Dry now, been


New Mexico
In this for 12 yrs now in the sw. I just hope this is not one of those 11th and 13th century deals which lasted bout 60 years each and changed a bunch of things at the time. the 30's is a little dry comped to those.
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rab1964
Posted 12/1/2012 12:08 (#2726812 - in reply to #2726417)
Subject: Re: moisture map of United States from Freese -Notis



WOW how much more can bullish be. Just when you think you have seen it all!
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Illinois Steve
Posted 12/1/2012 18:57 (#2727339 - in reply to #2726812)
Subject: Re: moisture map of United States from Freese -Notis


North Central Illinois
Sorry, I don't understand what you are saying.
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emtbd1979
Posted 12/2/2012 11:34 (#2728458 - in reply to #2726417)
Subject: RE: OH COME ON TARA!



west central illinois
+ 1. I have a feeling sometimes after Tara posts, that he doesn't even operate a farm. Seems to me he is more of a grain buyer talking.
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